RED ALERT Tip: Two quotes from the Obama-Khalidi videotape

Doug Ross @ Journal ^ | October 29, 2008 | Doug Ross

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RED ALERT Tip: Two quotes from the Obama-Khalidi videotape 

You know the videotape that shows Barack Obama toasting PLO terrorist Rashid Khalidi? The one that the Los Angeles Times refuses to release?

"The Los Angeles Times did not publish the videotape because it was provided to us by a confidential source who did so on the condition that we not release it," said the newspaper's editor, Russ Stanton...

How frickin' stupid do they think we are? Someone gave the Times a videotape so it wouldn't be released? And they can't publish a transcript?

I guess that's the kind of executive talent the newspaper business is attracting these days.

However, I received a tip from a person who has provided useful, accurate and unique data from LA before (e.g., "All six of CNN's 'undecided voters' were Democratic operatives"). Take it for what it's worth, but I believe this person is on target.

Saw a clip from the tape. Reason we can't release it is because statements Obama said to rile audience up during toast. He congratulates Khalidi for his work saying "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" plus there's been "genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis."

It would be really controversial if it got out. Tha's why they will not even let a transcript get out.

Yep, I guess that would do it.

 

[Lent]

As much as I want to believe Jews would abandon Obama because of a statement like this, I think they wouldn’t. Many would, but most would just shrug their shoulders.

Well, what do you want? 100% just because of Israel? Do you know how many Christians are voting for Obama? Enough to make him the next President even though he has made snide comments regarding conservative Christians or evangelical Christians and went to a racist black nationalist church for twenty years. Millions of Catholics will vote for him simply because he is Democratic regardless of his views on abortion.

Picking on Jews because they don't ALL follow your perception of what they should follow doesn't make them a collectivity such that 'they' should be isolated and excoriated.

[rintense]

First of all, you need thicker skin. Second of all, I equally condemn those Christians and Catholics who vote for Obama, and especially black Christians. Third, as a Christian, I have been a 100% supporter of Israel- something I would expect from all Jews.

[Lent]

First of all, you need thicker skin. Second of all, I equally condemn those Christians and Catholics who vote for Obama, and especially black Christians. Third, as a Christian, I have been a 100% supporter of Israel- something I would expect from all Jews.

My skin is thick enough. Why would you "expect" Jews" to 100% support Israel? A little stereotyping? Do you think your class of Christians 100% support Israel? Christians have degrees of belief in various doctrines, Maybe your class does 100% but another maybe 30%. I guess I should just lump all Christians together though and say because 100% don't, then damn them Christians.

Secondly, you support Israel, I hope, not because Jews, or Bhuddists, or your fellow Christians support Israel, but because it is the right thing to do, historically and strategically.

[rintense]

Wow, you really need to lighten up. And yes, I would expect all Jews to support Israel, if only based on the historical significance alone. And yes, 'my 'class' of Christians unequivocally support Israel. And yes, I believe all Christians should support Israel.

And finally, I support Israel for many different reasons, least of which is the right thing to do, historically and strategically.

Why are you so bothered that many here believe as I do?

[Lent]

Wow, you really need to lighten up. And yes, I would expect all Jews to support Israel, if only based on the historical significance alone. And yes, 'my 'class' of Christians unequivocally support Israel. And yes, I believe all Christians should support Israel.

And finally, I support Israel for many different reasons, least of which is the right thing to do, historically and strategically.

Why are you so bothered that many here believe as I do?

It seems like you can't take a little rejoinder without recoiling in offence. I think you need to grow some thicker skin yourself.

You go ahead and stereotype Jews then and presume what they should or shouldn't believe in or to what degree they should believe in it, whatever that is. The point is that once you stereotype, then your fellow Christians should also fall into your perception of what priorities they should have. You can discern a difference but why should Jews then not consider Christians who far from vote like a collectivity not be painted with the same broad brush you presume to paint them with?

[rintense]

The entire world lives within stereotypes, right or wrong. If you don't like it, then you fight against it.

Instead of being so histrionic about what I believe, why not use that energy and go after your fellow Jews who insist on voting Dem?

[STARWISE]

From left to right, Michelle Obama, then Illinois state senator Barack Obama, Columbia University Professor Edward Said and Mariam Said at a May 1998 Arab community event in Chicago at which Edward Said gave the keynote speech. (Image from archives of Ali Abunimah (((Abunimah = The man Debbie Schlussel believes turned over his tape of the 2003 Obama/Khalidi/Palestinian celebration to the LA Times)))

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October 29, 2008 EXCLUSIVE: Ali Abunimah is Likely Source of Secreted Obama/Khalidi/Ayres Tape; LA Times' Wallsten Plagiarized Schlussel Back in April, Said Politico

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Edward Said

The Said-Khalidi-Obama Connection

The invaluable Andrew McCarthy takes note of a connection between Barack Obama and Edward Said, an apologist for terrorism, who played a key role in changing the field of Middle East Studies towards an anti-Western and anti-Israel bias.

Said, a writer and professor at Columbia University, trained many of the Middle East professors who now broadcast his message to thousands of students across America and the world. Said hated Israel so much that he was seen throwing rocks from Lebanon at Israeli soldiers across the border.

His role in distorting the field of Middle Eastern studies has prompted a counter-movement led, among others, by the esteemed Bernard Lewis of Princeton University. McCarthy:

Obama was a student at Columbia from 1981 to 1983. He refuses to discuss those years; it is known only that he studied for at least some time under Edward Said, the late PLO apologist.

Not only has Barack Obama refused to discuss those years-as he refuses to discuss much of his past, he will not release his transcripts from Columbia or his thesis that he wrote before he graduated (claiming he "lost" the thesis). Would a transcript reveal more about his education under Edward Said?

Not so ironically, Obama also enjoyed close relations with Rashid Khalidi when Khalidi was a professor at the University of Chicago. In 2003, Khalidi became the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University and he now also serves as the director of the Middle East Institute of Columbia's School of International and Public Affairs.

Barack Obama was on the small board of the Woods Fund (along with Bill Ayers) when that fund (originally chartered to help the poor) gave two grants to the Arab American Action Network totaling $110,000 in the years 2001 and 2002. This group was headed by Khalidi's wife and engaged in a series of anti-Israel actions.

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~~PING to above.

I’m pleading with folks to PLEASE add the
important keywords to posted articles.

[Lent]

The entire world lives within stereotypes, right or wrong. If you don't like it, then you fight against it.

Instead of being so histrionic about what I believe, why not use that energy and go after your fellow Jews who insist on voting Dem?

Well many of the stereotypes are wrong. But I guess it would take too much energy to correct the wrong ones, right? And I'm a Christian by the way.

I'd suggest that your beliefs based on stereotyping have a greater part in repelling Jewish voters to the conservative cause than anything else. But why should that concern you anyway. Right?

[rintense]

You couldn’t be more wrong. My beliefs that the majority of Jews vote Dem is sheer fact. If they don’t like the stereotype, its up to them to change it. As such, I do my part and try to convince my Jewish friend all the time. And don’t get me started about the Christians I know who are voting for Obama.

[Fishtalk]

Well I certainly would expect all Jews to support Israel.

And I’m betting most of them do no matter what some thumb-sucking poster asserts as “stereotype”.

Here’s an anecdotal story. Once had a Jewish boss. Was arguing politics of some sort....forget which race but I offered as an argument that a particular candidate (NOT Obama, this was years ago)was against ISrael. All of a sudden I got real self-conscious, thinking perhaps I shouldn’t have AssUMed all Jews favor Israel. I even apologized for making what was perhaps a stereotypical assumption.

“All Jews support Israel,” my boss told me. “And I didn’t know this about.....(I think it was Pat Buchanan but again, memory clogs)”.

I think to accuse one of stereotyping based on an assumption that most, if not all, Jews favor and support Israel, is to be without much of a life, a naval gazer and anal beyond all comprehension.

George Soros...he prolly don’t like Israel.

[Lent]

You couldn’t be more wrong. My beliefs that the majority of Jews vote Dem is sheer fact. If they don’t like the stereotype, its up to them to change it. As such, I do my part and try to convince my Jewish friend all the time. And don’t get me started about the Christians I know who are voting for Obama.

That's not the stereotype we were discussing. The stereotype is that Jews have to hold the same beliefs about the state of Israel as you do and put Israel on the same political priority list as you do.

[Lent]

Well this is one thumb sucker who can see you don’t know what the hell your talking about. The stereotype is not that most Jews support Israel. The issue is why they should support Israel as THE priority in their political beliefs and secondly, why the Jewish vote is taken as an amorphous whole when it is not. You don’t like the percentages, fine. But to stereotype because you don’t see 100% voting block for the Republican side is idiotic.

[Fishtalk]

We shall agree to disagree.

[rintense]

Uh, if you go read what you typed, you stated something different- that saying all Jews should support Israel is a stereotype.

[Lent]

No I didn’t. You cast the notion of Jewish vote (or Jew) as amorphous and I didn’t and don’t.

[rintense]

I can’t cast a notion when its a fact. This conversation is going in circles. Good day.

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[School of Rational Thought]

Releasing the transcript of the tape is not the same as releasing the tape itself.

If the LA times wanted to comply they could.