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Encouraging poll results from IBD/TIPP -- the firm that was most accurate in 2004 Election...
IBD / TIPP ^ | 10/27/2008 | IBD / TIPP

Posted on 10/28/2008 7:34:50 AM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE

John McCain vs. Barack Obama Release Date McCain Obama Undecided Spread October 27 44.2% 47.0% 8.8% +2.8 Obama October 26 43.3% 46.5% 10.1% +3.2 Obama October 25 41.9% 45.8% 12.2% +3.9 Obama October 24 42.3% 45.8% 11.9% +3.5 Obama October 23 43.7% 44.8% 11.6% +1.1 Obama October 22 42.0% 45.7% 12.3% +3.7 Obama October 21 40.9% 46.9% 12.1% +6.0 Obama October 20 41.4% 46.7% 11.9% +5.3 Obama October 19 41.5% 46.6% 11.9% +5.1 Obama October 18 39.8% 47.2% 13.0% +7.3 Obama October 17 40.6% 45.9% 13.5% +5.3 Obama October 16 41.6% 45.2% 13.2% +3.6 Obama October 15 41.9% 45.2% 12.9% +3.3 Obama October 14 41.9% 44.8% 13.3% +3.0 Obama October 13 42.7% 44.8% 12.5% +2.1 Obama

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; election; mcccain; obama; polls
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I think the 18-24 year olds are going much more for Sarah Palin then Mccain......Palin is a HUGE factor in this race

Which explains why the press has declared all out war on her. If they really believed she was hurting McCain, they wouldn't be so adamant to destroy her reputation.

81 posted on 10/28/2008 8:33:39 AM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: JohnRand

“It is encouraging, however, I’m surprised at the number for 18 - 24 year olds that are going for McCain. Not that I don’t think they should prefer him but that is against everything else I’ve heard about that demographic.”

I can remember when the lowered the voting age to 18 nationally. The prediction was that the youth vote would break hard for the Democrats and give them a huge advantage. It didn’t. What they found out after the election that most people in the 18-21 range voted along the same lines as their parents.

As far as I can tell, this has been true ever since (despite what the pre-election polls said.) Young people tend to vote the same way their parents do.

Young people want to seem hip/cool/part-of-the-crowd so in public and to pollsters they say they are going to vote Democratic. When they get in the privacy of the voting booth they hold the opinions of their parents in higher regard than their friends, and vote like their parents do.

It doesn’t have a name, but I suspect it is the same phenomenon we are seeing today with Obama and the general public.


82 posted on 10/28/2008 8:34:29 AM PDT by Brookhaven (.)
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To: zaker99

My FRiend this is certainly no time to relax. We do have cause for concern.
McCain is only finding his voice to counter now and time is against him.

And he’s not able to succinctly hammer that resonates with voters. It’s just not his strong suit.


83 posted on 10/28/2008 8:37:09 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: MrChips; mnehrling; NYC_BULLMOOSE
Can someone graph this?

I've been updating it each day:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pLKmTgcVm7Pd_N-_t7U2cVQ

The 2004 results (day by day) are also plotted.

84 posted on 10/28/2008 8:39:34 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

“I think the 18-24 year olds are going much more for Sarah Palin then Mccain......Palin is a HUGE factor in this race”

When my RINO McCain supporting buddy complained about Sarah the other day (he’s pretty much sexist overall though i discovered) I emailed and blasted him:

“Sarah is the only thing keeping this close.”

Didn’t hear a word from him after that.


85 posted on 10/28/2008 8:40:02 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: mnehrling
what value is a national poll when the election is not decided on a national vote?

obama could theoretically be up 10 points in a national poll and still lose the electoral vote

I believe obama will get more votes than mccain and lose

86 posted on 10/28/2008 8:40:17 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: romanesq

Zaker99 and WilliamReading are on my list.

And, now, so are you!

Congratulations.


87 posted on 10/28/2008 8:40:55 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: edzo4

I think that is the key, we may have a 2000 situation on our hands. Gore should have won that handily considering he was an incumbent and all the dirt they had on W.


88 posted on 10/28/2008 8:41:36 AM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: edzo4

A national poll does have some merit. Some trendlines can be determined based on the overall spread on how certain states will go.

So for example a wide enough or small enough lead can portend where certain states may land up heading.

Of course that is speculative too. But all polling is.


89 posted on 10/28/2008 8:41:57 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: edzo4

Actually at 10% that would be impossible. Outside of 3% nationally would likely translate to an electoral advantage anyway you slice it.


90 posted on 10/28/2008 8:43:11 AM PDT by CSI007
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To: Cedric

Cedric I have no idea what you are talking about but if it is an entertainment list so be it.

We are happy to have Cedric the Entertainer among us.

I certainly can not relax, with the numbers as they appear to be, I am more concerned for my country than ever.

If you sleep better than me, good for you.


91 posted on 10/28/2008 8:43:58 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE; Sidebar Moderator
BTW, this was already posted yesterday.

The IBD/TIPP results are released each day about 1:00 Eastern. It is usually posted within 5-10 minutes, usually by multiple people.

I think we need a Polls sidebar during the last month or so before an election. Putting a popular poll in any other sidebar (including breaking news) quickly falls off the list -- and unless you know exactly what to search for, we get lots of duplicates.

92 posted on 10/28/2008 8:44:04 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: mnehrling
Just like everything else in the MSM I don't even give it an ounce of credence.

Everything that comes from that wing of the democrat party is BS.

93 posted on 10/28/2008 8:44:36 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: romanesq

the polls are designed to influence public opinion not accurately represent it.


94 posted on 10/28/2008 8:45:26 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: romanesq

the polls are designed to influence public opinion not accurately represent it.


95 posted on 10/28/2008 8:45:26 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: mnehrling

Remember that W was heading to a handy victory until Gore’s political machine had one of their people release George’s DWI into the media mainstream the weekend going into the election.

That was what got Gore so close to within an eyelash in Florida. And he did land up getting the national vote.


96 posted on 10/28/2008 8:45:29 AM PDT by romanesq
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This MAY be working out as the best possible scenario for McCain. The Obamabots’ plan was to create the idea that Obama had it in the bag to depress GOP turnout (though they were forgetting it might depress their own as well) and get people to vote with the “winner”.

If McCain can just keep it to within a 4-5 point race, the GOP won’t be depressed and will show up. Palin has obviously helped with this as well. Yet the Obamabots still are spinning they are well ahead, and might actually depress their OWN turnout. Add to that they are oversampling Dems in a lot of polls and you actually could have a decent McCain win here if things keep moving this direction.


97 posted on 10/28/2008 8:47:29 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Houghton M.

I also think there is another dynamic at work here, people are so enraged with the media that they want to make them look as bad as possible. They lie to them and enjoy the heck out of it!!!


98 posted on 10/28/2008 8:49:47 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: romanesq
Yeah, but in 04 Bush picked up some steam days before the election and was leading Kerry by 3 or 4 and we know how that turned out! Not trying to be pessimistic or a debbie downer here, but let's be realistic...don't rely on polls too much...just GOTV and take someone who is voting for McPal to the booth! PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP!! FIGHT! IGNORE THE POLLS! they are NO good!
99 posted on 10/28/2008 8:54:16 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: mnehrling

Thanks. Better. Heading backgrounds a bit dark however.


100 posted on 10/28/2008 8:54:39 AM PDT by Jim W N
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