Posted on 10/25/2008 11:12:57 PM PDT by Chet 99
By Jeremiah Horrigan
Times Herald-Record
October 26, 2008
STONE RIDGE — He's losing ground in almost every poll every day. Increasingly, the world's most sophisticated polling and demographic reviews are spewing out reams of up-to-the-minute bad news for Republican John McCain.
But McCain can take comfort from one all-but-forgotten predictive realm: the heavens. A small group of folks who practice the world's oldest form of forecasting decided this past week that the heavens favor John McCain for president.
Nearly a dozen predictive astrologers, members of the local chapter of the National Council for Geocosmic Research, spent more than two hours challenging and discussing each other's predictive assessments of both candidates' chances come November.
To an outsider, their rapid-fire talk of "oppositions," "ascents" and "transits" was akin to listening in on a macro-economic conference — a language of numbers, signs and symbols well beyond the ken of the casual listener.
But you didn't need a natal chart to determine that the conclusion the group reached was arrived at reluctantly; most of the astrologers were Barack Obama supporters. But the heavens, they said, are as immune to the vagaries of human opinion and preference as they are immutable in their movements. Divining their meaning, however, isn't always perfectly obvious even to the trained eye, one trained eye said.
Still, group moderator Ira Rubin cautioned that the accuracy of the information used to make the assessment — the candidates' birth charts — was under dispute. Several versions of both candidates' charts have surfaced because both men were born outside the continental United States and challenges have been launched to their constitutional right to serve as president.
"There's so much conflicting data, it's difficult to reach a conclusion," Rubin said. But, he added, he'd seen the group's reluctant assessment in McCain's favor echoed in several other similar meetings at other similar gatherings, including a total of about 50 astrologers.
What Rubin said was most disturbing about the way Election Day astrologically looked was the result of something called a Saturn-Uranus Opposition that, he said, portended a potential for "electronic breakdowns."
"It's a very dire time," he said, and to determine that, "you don't need to be an astrologer."
jhorrigan@th-record.com
"Simply put: I would not expect this to be the horoscope of a President, actually not of a leader of any significance. Obama's chart is much more focused on his personal life.
There's just one planet in the vicinity of his horoscope's zenith: Neptune in Scorpio and the 9th House. That indicates dreams and fantasies about fantastic changes in his life – but most of them remain dreams.
It gets better, the rest is at: http://www.horoscoper.net/horoscopes/barackobama-horoscope.htm
There are several more, Hillary Clinton's chart scares the guy, says he would never support such a person for any public office. The one on Sarah Palin is not flattering, but he believes she'll be the next VP. McCain is there, too, again not especially flattering, but he believes McCain will be elected president. The guy is Swedish, these charts were not done especially recently.
American Astrologers tend to be democrats. But they are Clinton democrats. Very few are complete libtard loons or Conservatives.
Back in elections 2000 a whole bunch of them insisted Bush would lose, because he has his Sun in the 12th house, indicated a life behind the scenes, not in public prominence. Only one astrologer predicted Bush winning.
Ah well, hope they get it right this time.
LAZARUS LONG
“Have no doubts , Michelle wears the pants in that marriage . If B.O. wins , she will be directing much of the policy decisions ....”
Michelle’s boss is Obama’s top advisor. He doesn’t do anything without consulting her first (the advisor).
Well, du-u-uh! The Astrologers would say this. In the "astrology world" it goes like this: "If the fake certificate we have now is really fake, then we can't really say whether or not Obama will win and because we don't have his actual "birth vitals", therefore, we must give the win to McCain. Nobody messes with the planets in our town! grr."
I don’t really believe this stuff, but about 25 years ago, as a lark, I paid a well-known local astrologer to do my husband’s and my charts, as an anniversary gift. This guy’s charts were quite attractive and made decent wall art.
Anyway, he came back quite puzzled. He said my chart showed a “powerful person of potential influence” and then proceeded to question the birth time on my birth certificate, because, in his mind, I was too skeptical to match the horoscope. Turns out my mother was facing a clock all through her labor and swore that the time was exact....she even remembered it exactly, 40 years after the fact and since I had my certificate, she couldn’t have looked at it since I was an infant.
FWIW.
However, astrologers can't tell you who you are, really.
By my calculation, this is my 10th Presidential election. The mainstream (?) USA news media in this election cycle is little different from what I remember Tass and Pravda putting out of the USSR during the cold war. Never thought I'd see this in my lifetime.
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