Posted on 10/25/2008 11:12:57 PM PDT by Chet 99
By Jeremiah Horrigan
Times Herald-Record
October 26, 2008
STONE RIDGE — He's losing ground in almost every poll every day. Increasingly, the world's most sophisticated polling and demographic reviews are spewing out reams of up-to-the-minute bad news for Republican John McCain.
But McCain can take comfort from one all-but-forgotten predictive realm: the heavens. A small group of folks who practice the world's oldest form of forecasting decided this past week that the heavens favor John McCain for president.
Nearly a dozen predictive astrologers, members of the local chapter of the National Council for Geocosmic Research, spent more than two hours challenging and discussing each other's predictive assessments of both candidates' chances come November.
To an outsider, their rapid-fire talk of "oppositions," "ascents" and "transits" was akin to listening in on a macro-economic conference — a language of numbers, signs and symbols well beyond the ken of the casual listener.
But you didn't need a natal chart to determine that the conclusion the group reached was arrived at reluctantly; most of the astrologers were Barack Obama supporters. But the heavens, they said, are as immune to the vagaries of human opinion and preference as they are immutable in their movements. Divining their meaning, however, isn't always perfectly obvious even to the trained eye, one trained eye said.
Still, group moderator Ira Rubin cautioned that the accuracy of the information used to make the assessment — the candidates' birth charts — was under dispute. Several versions of both candidates' charts have surfaced because both men were born outside the continental United States and challenges have been launched to their constitutional right to serve as president.
"There's so much conflicting data, it's difficult to reach a conclusion," Rubin said. But, he added, he'd seen the group's reluctant assessment in McCain's favor echoed in several other similar meetings at other similar gatherings, including a total of about 50 astrologers.
What Rubin said was most disturbing about the way Election Day astrologically looked was the result of something called a Saturn-Uranus Opposition that, he said, portended a potential for "electronic breakdowns."
"It's a very dire time," he said, and to determine that, "you don't need to be an astrologer."
jhorrigan@th-record.com
Someone post this at Daily Kos I’m sure they’ll eat up.
Well, the methodology here seems more scientific than Zogby...
Oh noes!
Heaven is racist!
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Lost me with the first sentence. No need to read any futher. Buh-bye.
I’ve casually followed “mundane astrology” for a while. The practice is not un-Biblical, until you start delving into the personal, at which point it veers into divination. Mundane astrology deals with world events, nations, wars, things of that nature. This Ira Rubin does correctly acknowledge that the vast majority of mundane astrologers are politically liberal, and would not want to say McCain appears to be our next president, according to their reading of the charts.
Exactly... I’d readily put more stock into these astrologer’s assessments than I would in our modern day pollsters .
If anyone here studies astrology , you will gain a great deal of insight into B.O.’s marriage dynamic . Have no doubts , Michelle wears the pants in that marriage . If B.O. wins , she will be directing much of the policy decisions ....
Be fun to watch their heads explode.
Not true. McCain has remained 3-4 points behind Obama for 3 straight days and the IBD/Tipp poll has remained in the 1-4 mark for the last 4 days.
Lets all give McCain some Reiki.
Chet...you’re making it hard...
LOLOL!
Oh Noz... My pic of Miss Cleo disappeared!
It must be magic.
I'd be willing to do that, if you will explain what it is.
Am I the only one who finds it amusing that the liberal astrologer in this article said his McCain prediction may be wrong since Obama’s birth information is questionable?
I didnt even read the crap.
I was having dinner a night ago with a friend of mine who is a statistician for a well-regarded private polling company.They do some work for Republicans in California, but most of the work they do is for Democrats or Democrat-leaning operations (Unions, etc.). Anyway, her shop was retained to do a few Presidential polls for targetted states on behalf of a union so the union could decide where to spend their ad dollars for the last week. They did Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Missouri.
After mocking the hell out of the voter id spreads used by Rassmussen, Zogby, etc. (and this is coming from a committed Dem who will be voting for Barry O) she said the results of their polling lead her to believe that McCain will definitely win FL, OH, NC, MO and NV.
She says Obama definitely wins New Mexico. She said that Colorado and New Hampshire were absolute dead heats. She said she thinks there is a 55% chance Obama holds on in Pennsylvania and a 75% chance McCain wins Virginia.
She absolutely laughed at the public polls showing Obama leading Virginia–and pointed out that all of those polls rely on Dem turnout being +4 and as much as +7, when in 2006, Republicans actually had the advantage by +3. She also pointed out that the numbers for Obama in SWVA look absolutely awful and that McCain is running 10 points better then Allen did in NoVa.
Anyway, her companies conclusion is that the election will come down to Colorado, New Hampshire and the Republican leaning district in Maine, which in her opinion might very well decide the Presidency (apparently the district in Nebraska that Obama thought he might be able to get is now off the table).She said she has very little doubt that the public polling is part of a “concerted voter suppression effort” by the MSM. She said IBD/TIPP was the only outfit doing public polling that was “worth a bucket of warm piss”.
Heck, even the astrologers can't tell who's going to win this thing, better just throw yarrow sticks with the I Ching, or do a Ouija board, and then we'll know for sure.....
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