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Berg will appeal
Americas Right ^ | 10/25/08 | Jeff Schrieber

Posted on 10/25/2008 7:31:47 AM PDT by NoobRep

So, who does have standing? According to the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick, that's completely up to Congress to decide.

If, through the political process, Congress determines that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency, then it is free to pass laws conferring standing on individuals like Plaintiff. Until that time, voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring in the Amended Complaint.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: antichrist; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; conspiracy; lawsuit; leftwingconspiracy; obama; philipberg
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To: mombi
Since the requirement is a positive declaration then if there are questions he must answer them or face the consequences. i have always thought that there was no case for this until he is sworn in. Then he could possibly be disqualified.
61 posted on 10/25/2008 9:06:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: NoobRep

What this is all boiling down to is that Tail gunner Joe was right more than he would have ever believed.


62 posted on 10/25/2008 9:12:42 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Paine in the Neck
"Natural Born Citizen Clause does not result in an injury in fact to voters.”

What about the injury to the constitution?

63 posted on 10/25/2008 9:19:43 AM PDT by jetson
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To: NoobRep
This judge is full of sh** and a clinton appointee, which is to say the same thing. The constitution was written for the people, not the government. It is our document for enforcing the law of the land and the people have every right to question, bring to court and file suit, and if necessary take up arms, to stop violation of the law of the land.

Liberal judge in the tank for Bozo.

Now, I am not saying bozo isn't a citizen, although it is looking that way since he is going out of his way to avoid producing a vault copy of his BC, but I am saying this judge should have ordered Bozo to produce and failing to produce he should have declared him not eligible to run for office, period. Saying a citizen of the US has no standing to bring a suit against a violation of the people's document is BS.

64 posted on 10/25/2008 9:21:22 AM PDT by calex59
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To: NoobRep

No standing. Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people?


65 posted on 10/25/2008 9:26:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Doohickey

One they will HAVE to FIX no doubt.


66 posted on 10/25/2008 9:27:13 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: olezip

>>>What body or persons are responsible for vetting the basic requirements of the Constitution?

The media. So guess what....


67 posted on 10/25/2008 9:27:37 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: autumnraine
"This just tells us that now we know who really runs this country. And it’s certainly not “We the people”."

Would you care to put your Life, Fortune, and Sacred Honor on the line to insure that We The People do in fact run this country?

I did once and stand ready to do it again.

68 posted on 10/25/2008 9:50:13 AM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: NoobRep

Gosh, Judge Surrick was so careful about taking his time deliberating on this issue. I wonder what took him so long? And in the end, he comes up with this:

...a candidate’s ineligibility under the Natural Born Citizen Clause does not result in an injury in fact to voters.

Oh, well, it’s about what I expected from the corrupted system in place.


69 posted on 10/25/2008 9:53:06 AM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: olezip
"What is going on? Are we already "cowed" by the Marxists?"

Yes, we all are...it's been going on for years.

70 posted on 10/25/2008 10:04:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: An Old Man

Yes, I would. My husband and I have discussed it and it is horrifying what is happening right in front of our eyes and we have decided we would put it on the line to try to fight for what our ancestors fought for.

And that is also a FRIGHTENING proposition. I pray it doesn’t come to that.


71 posted on 10/25/2008 10:06:11 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: mad_as_he$$

“No I am and apparently the judge is saying if he isn’t eligible then don’t vote for him.”

That is the scariest thing I have heard.

A judge saying essentially “So what if he isn’t eligible, don’t vote for him then” is mob rule. A mob rule society that needs no laws, as long as the majority wants it, so be it.

You don’t find anything wrong with that?


72 posted on 10/25/2008 10:07:40 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: goldstategop

Could a STATE do it? Could an attorney representing one of the red states sue for the entire STATE if they felt that they were being forced to have a President that was not legally eligible to be President under the Constitution?

I am asking as a legal question only, because I assume Obama was actually born in Hawaii. But theoretically, there must be SOME other entity that would have a right to sue if a President was not fit to be elected.


73 posted on 10/25/2008 10:10:43 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: olezip
Just who, if anyone, in today's government has "standing?"

Back before 'Civics' Was replaced by "Government" class in school, We The People were at the top of the power structure in this Republic and it was graphically presented thus.

No more, from what I have seen, and the government is taking advantage of that fundamental ignorance foisted upon an unwary citizenry by government schools.

74 posted on 10/25/2008 10:12:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Not surprised by this ruling of lack of standing. It's a very convenient way for the Court to dodge the very legitimate factual issues in this case.

It's just another example of courts doing anything they can to help Goliath at the expense of David, regardless of the merits of David's case.

If courts and legal cases can't redress unconstitutional abuses of power on the part of certain people and groups, a civil war of some sort will eventually occur.

75 posted on 10/25/2008 10:13:09 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: devere
“To reiterate: a candidate’s ineligibility under the Natural Born Citizen Clause does not result in an injury in fact to voters.” Judge Surick

OK, couldn't something like this go to the Supremes? Isn't there any chance that discarding something from the Constitution is literally against the law, and cannot be allowed? It's like saying that now we can run an 18-year-old for President, or even a foreign national. Nothing counts.

76 posted on 10/25/2008 10:14:54 AM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: NoobRep

Does this mean we Freepers need to bring a Constitutional amendment to our state goevrnments to sue over the fact that representation laws of the commander and chief, should be a state law, that anyone running for President who appears on the ballot must prove proper birth and citizenship, tied the federal law so States rights would be able to sue?

We may need to mobilize at the state levels pass State laws and use them against Washington, and Jusges who thwart our laws.


77 posted on 10/25/2008 10:17:20 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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To: autumnraine

Yes, I would.

Great! Now are two of us. When enough Patriots join in our cause, we can drive these socialists rom our shores.

78 posted on 10/25/2008 10:19:22 AM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: Dick Bachert
I tremble for our grandchildren

Teach them the lessons their parents won't have time to and that they will not get in schools; especially: take them shooting, let them understand the intrinsic freedoms which are America at a visceral level and the responsibilities which come with them. Teach them to embrace those and America will never die.

79 posted on 10/25/2008 10:19:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: reformedliberal
Can we get a Constitutional attorney's opinion on this ruling?

I'm not an attorney at all, but I can tell you that - contrary to the spin that the Obama campaign might put on it - the ruling did not say that Berg's claims of Obama's constitutional ineligibility for POTUS were false or disingenuous. The ruling merely dodged a detailed public examination of Obama's credentials or lack thereof, which would have occurred if the suit were allowed to proceed.

80 posted on 10/25/2008 10:24:54 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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