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To: Twink

Twink wrote:

I don’t think Gardisil vaccine is about sex.

and

but this vaccine has nothing to do with STDs...

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You were up awfully late when you wrote that. I hope by now, you’ve had some coffee and are able to think.

News Flash: THE GARDASIL VACCINE IS ALL ABOUT SEX. It is designed to prevent an STD which causes cancer. And the way you get this STD is through....

wait for it...

sex.

And now as I mock you for your total misunderstanding of the subject, let me back up and apologize for mocking you earlier with my condom remarks. Yes they were “too personal”.

But I still believe there is a direct connection to Gardasil and teen sex just as there is to condoms and teen sex.

One prevents cancer. (We hope)

The other prevents babies. (We hope)


65 posted on 10/10/2008 5:07:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd; Twink; mountainbunny; !1776!
News Flash: THE GARDASIL VACCINE IS ALL ABOUT SEX. It is designed to prevent an STD which causes cancer. And the way you get this STD is through....wait for it...sex.

It is true that it would be pretty much impossible for anyone to contract HPV if they never have any sexual intercourse during the course of their entire lives. But unless you are going to lock your daughters up in an ivory tower with a chastity belt for life, it’s pretty unrealistic to think she will never have sex.

A woman could be totally chaste and virginal until her marriage but if her husband was not so before their marriage, he could carry the virus.

Let’s say for example that a 25 year old, morally upstanding, church going woman who is still a virgin meets a really great, morally upstanding straight arrow 30 year old guy at her church; they fall in love and decide to get married. But what if this guy, when he was in his late teens, “sowed some wild oats” as it were and had pre-marital sex a couple of times with one or two girlfriends (and how many guys have?) until he saw that wasn’t the sort of lifestyle he wanted to follow. Although he is a great guy now and the type of fine upstanding young man that any mother or father would be happy to have marry their daughter, he could be carrying the HPV virus and unknowingly pass it on to his wife and put her at risk for cervical cancer.

I really don’t understand the hysteria about this vaccine. Like all vaccines, there are some risks, but nothing I’ve read about it from the CDC and the FDA documents about the “adverse reactions” are anything to be alarmed about. Polio, TB and measles vaccines have similar “adverse reactions” – soreness at the injection site, slight fever, and even fainting and lightheadedness (which is more of an emotional reaction than a physical one) but the overall benefits outweigh the risks IMHO.

News Flash: PREMARITAL SEX HAS BEEN AROUND AS LONG AS MEN AND WOMEN HAVE BEEN AROUND.

It’s a virus, not a moral judgment. Any young woman that thinks that the Gardisil vaccine will prevent all STD’s and give her card blanche to have indiscriminate sex is either stupid or had irresponsible parents who never bothered to teach her about the facts of life.
67 posted on 10/10/2008 6:48:07 AM PDT by Caramelgal (a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer except that you have actual responsibilies)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“And now as I mock you for your total misunderstanding of the subject”

Another mocking. Great way to have a serious discussion. I don’t think I’m totally misunderstanding the subject.

“back up and apologize for mocking you earlier with my condom remarks. Yes they were “too personal”.

Thank you for that. That comment was way too personal and uncalled for, imo.

I figure we’re Conservatives here, or mostly we’re all conservatives. That means social conservatives, too. I know how I’m trying to raise my kids, just like my parents tried to raise me and my sibs.

Condoms have been around since way before I was born. Same with “the pill” or other forms of Birth Control. None had made me think pre-marital sex was ok or gave me a pass to engage in teen sex. Or pre-marital sex.

We have TV shows, movies, much popular culture that encourages premarital sex, homo sex/homo lifestyle as normal, etc. Yet, my kids still say ewwww when they see homos on TV or in movies. As for teens having sex, there’s tons of teens not having sex, too. They just don’t get the press. Back in the 80’s, every teen was having sex, often if we went by what the Media told us. Well, I wasn’t and many of my friends weren’t either. And those who were, were in serious relationships, in love, and caught up in all the excitement of that “love.”

We all try to raise our kids right. Then it’s up to them.

Mock away :)


73 posted on 10/11/2008 8:49:07 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Responsibility2nd
News Flash: THE GARDASIL VACCINE IS ALL ABOUT SEX. It is designed to prevent an STD which causes cancer. And the way you get this STD is through....

wait for it...

sex.

If my child makes a poor decision does she deserve to die from cancer?

If a loved one of yours makes a poor decision or is sexually assaulted do they deserve to die from cancer?

75 posted on 10/17/2008 8:01:45 PM PDT by !1776!
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