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To: Yo-Yo

Actually, ANYONE who buys a new car is instantly under water - or to use the car trade term ‘upside down’ - to the tune of about 20% the moment it is driven off the lot. Check it out on Kelly Blue Book. The facts speak for themselves.


38 posted on 10/08/2008 6:20:42 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
Actually, ANYONE who buys a new car is instantly under water - or to use the car trade term ‘upside down’ - to the tune of about 20% the moment it is driven off the lot.

NO, NO, NO. Anyone who buys a new car WITH LESS THAN 20% DOWN is upside down on their loan when they drive off the lot. Being upside down means owing more than the car is worth, not spending more than the car is worth. If your definition were the case, then every car, boat, motorcycle, and snowmobile purchase (with rare collector value execptions) are upside down, because the value decreases with time, but the amount you spent never changed.

Most people who put 10-15% down are upside down for the first year, but by the second year are above water. It's the NO MONEY DOWN buyers who stretch out payments to 6 years and have a high interest rate that remain upside down for a very long time. Sometimes they never recover, when 60 months into their 72 month loan the vehicle has 150,000 miles on it and is falling apart.

In any case, being upside down on a car loan only matters IF YOU HAVE TO SELL EARLY. Which was my point. Being "under water" on your home mortgage only matters if you have to sell immediately.

51 posted on 10/08/2008 6:58:52 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: abb
That's an excellent point. It's worth noting, however, that being "upside down" is not a problem in most cases like that. A car is not an investment -- it's a piece of machinery that provides the owner value beyond what it is supposedly "worth" to someone who estimates these things for Kelly Blue Book.

Most homes are the same. If someone can afford their mortgage payments and they have no intention of leaving anytime soon, then the "book value" of their home is almost meaningless.

58 posted on 10/08/2008 7:11:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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