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Germany takes hot seat as Europe falls into the Abyss
Telegraph ^ | Oct 5, 2008 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 10/05/2008 6:52:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: Lurker

Are you the one who posted about the neighborhood deal a few days ago?

Whoever posted it said something like, “I have a deal with my neighbors. They stockpile food, and gold - I stockpile ammo.”

“When do you think I should inform them of our deal?”


41 posted on 10/05/2008 7:26:06 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton
Are you the one who posted about the neighborhood deal a few days ago?

Nope. Although we do have a fairly well equipped Neighborhood Watch. What we haven't done is tell anyone of the extent of our preparations.

We've been putting away all three, among other things.

One month it's a few silver rounds and a pile of ammo, next month it's a pile of silver rounds and some canned or dehydrated goods, the month after that it's...well you get the idea.

“When do you think I should inform them of our deal?”

Ok, that's kind of funny.

L

42 posted on 10/05/2008 7:32:23 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker

I ruined a keyboard, when I read it. LOL!


43 posted on 10/05/2008 7:33:58 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Lazamataz
So what you are saying is we are completely screwed.

I love news that helps me sleep on a Sunday night./s

Welcome back. When I joined FR, you were one of the first posters that responded to my inane vanity. (blush) I'd never heard of a bunny with a pancake on its head before but I was schooled quite quickly.

Still here 5 1/2 years later. Glad you're back in the fold.

44 posted on 10/05/2008 7:36:26 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Shermy

Not really. If there is no money here, then we are not buying Chinese made products. If there are no orders in China, the factories grind to a halt. Massive layoffs follow with millions of uneducated workers with nothing to do in the new cities. Civil unrest follows.


45 posted on 10/05/2008 7:36:49 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Lazamataz
It's like a massive heart attack, or a stake through the heart of the global financial system.

You don't just pull the stake out ten minutes later, and get up and walk away.

It's a massive financial M.I., they will be thumping the corpse with defibulators like crazy, but nothing is sure to work.

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

---Ludwig Von Mises

“Several brokerage houses tumbled; blue-sky investment companies formed during the happy bull market days went to smash, disclosing miserable tales of rascality; over a thousand banks caved in during 1930, as a result of marking down both of real estate and of securities; and in December occurred the largest bank failure in American financial history, the fall of the ill-named Bank of the United States in New York.”

~~"Only Yesterday: An Informal History of the 1920’s" by Fredrick Lewis Allen

“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time, and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.”

~~President Andrew Jackson

46 posted on 10/05/2008 7:40:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lazamataz
Yes yes yes.

First the Germans scream and call us names when we say they have to join in to save the financial institutions. Now, a day late and a dollar short they will join forces, but of course they won't remember their own words and will blame us. LOL

Typical

47 posted on 10/05/2008 7:42:20 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: johnnycap

I have to tell you, we don’t have a lot of money but tonight, after reading this string, my wife and I went out to the drug store and loaded up on $10,000 bars. Just to show you how intent we are, we are both diabetics.


48 posted on 10/05/2008 7:44:19 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: Arkinsaw; TigerLikesRooster; ex-Texan; CodeToad; wardaddy; DuncanWaring; Eaker; hiredhand; ...
We are in the back of the plane, it is in a flat spin, we can hear the crew yelling at each other in several languages, the horizon is spinning around and the load is starting to shift.

This is a good time (Monday AM) to get to the bank and take out some cash. SUre, it's insured to 250K or whatever the new FDIC limit is, but that doesn't mean you will be allowed to take any out if there is a "bank holiday" which becomes increasingly possible. After the "bank holiday," you may find daily or weekly withdrawal limits, or a few zeros cut off of your account balance as we switch to "New Dollars."

Remember the first rule of bank runs: GET THERE FIRST.

49 posted on 10/05/2008 7:45:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lazamataz
Today Brinker was asked about the gold standard, and stated flatly that we went off the tracks when FDR and then Nixon took us off the gold standard. It gave congress a blank check to create debt to infinity, and here we are. I was shocked that Brinker came out in support of the gold standard. Amazed.
50 posted on 10/05/2008 7:47:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lurker
Curious: At what rate above spot price was your coin dealer selling the silver bars?

I'm trying to get a fix on the divergence between the COMEX make-believe paper precious metal prices, the ETF prices, and real in-your-hand physical.

51 posted on 10/05/2008 7:49:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

The FDIC has never been tested by a large run. It will probably provide “credit” versus dollars. Besides, if there is such a run then the dollar will tumble hard and inflation will skyrocket. Imagine the grocery store not taking credit or debit cards because there is no processing capability. Cash will be in demand and that will increase prices.


52 posted on 10/05/2008 7:50:10 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ConservativeMind

Yeah, everything is just fine! That little iceberg that scratched the ship last week didn’t even dent it. Let’s get back to the poker game.


53 posted on 10/05/2008 7:50:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lazamataz

I read this article and it was almost like reading something from The Onion.

Except, if it’s serious, it’s terrifying.


54 posted on 10/05/2008 7:51:32 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Travis McGee
or a few zeros cut off of your account balance as we switch to "New Dollars."

But they can't switch my Maples, or Krugerands... ;o)

55 posted on 10/05/2008 7:52:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: CodeToad

Note to self: visit bank manana por la manana.


56 posted on 10/05/2008 7:52:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

P.S. I was at a bank Saturday, a good, local bank that is as sound as a 2x4, and while there for 15 minutes several people where there inquiring if the ATM could do a several thousand dollar withdraw. Of course it can’t but these people were hesitant to use the teller. They went ahead and made cash withdraws of several thousand each using the teller and scurried out. I imagine not everyone will take out everything but I think a large amount will be and has been taken out.


57 posted on 10/05/2008 7:54:31 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: editor-surveyor

No, but they will probably make it illegal (a class A felony_ to buy or sell with unregistered gold. Registered, taxed, and them probably turned in FDR style at some set price, maybe $1,000 New Dollars.

If you try to buck the new fiat system by using PMs for private purchases, expect to be an outlaw. Expect sting operations, snitch lines, etc.


58 posted on 10/05/2008 7:54:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
I was shocked that Brinker came out in support of the gold standard. Amazed.

The gold standard doesn't make sense to me. I could see an oil standard, a natural gas standard, a milk standard, a cereal standard, a meat standard, a fish standard, a car standard, an airplane standard, a clothing standard, etc. Gold is not useful for much beyond fillings and jewelry.

59 posted on 10/05/2008 7:55:59 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson and Voting for Sarah)
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To: Travis McGee
Krauts' economy is the backbone of EU. Apparently, it could crash as badly as U.S.'s.

Actually no country is safe, especially developed ones. Some backwater countries may not be affected much, though.

Sometimes it pays to be out of loop.

60 posted on 10/05/2008 7:56:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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