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1 posted on 10/05/2008 6:11:39 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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Gee. This is a tough one. I would think abortion would be a non-starter.

I guess the NYT doesn’t really expect that should factor in strongly enough to override everything else.


2 posted on 10/05/2008 6:13:47 AM PDT by rlmorel (Who is Saul Alinsky and why is Barack Obama a disciple of his methods?)
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Well duh! They have to be reminded?


3 posted on 10/05/2008 6:14:01 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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Good. “Community Organize” this, Barry....


4 posted on 10/05/2008 6:14:32 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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That is becoming an increasingly difficult choice considering the GOP has been incrementally moving towards the socialist Democrats ideology in an effort to expand the GOP voting base. They are essentially becoming one party.
5 posted on 10/05/2008 6:15:40 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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HAHAHAHA! Man if Catholics can’t figure this one out, they need to give up or realize they really don’t believe in Jesus Christ.


6 posted on 10/05/2008 6:15:46 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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1. Protecting innocent life is paramount.
2. Charity does not involve a threat of prison.
3. The St. Vincent de Paul society and Catholic Charities doesn't just hand out money to bums like the gubment does.
4. It has been proven time and again that all other things being equal, conservative voluntary charity far outstrips what libs give.
7 posted on 10/05/2008 6:16:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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*Real* Catholics wouldn’t *dream* of voting for a RAT today.Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi “Catholics”....the ones who adhere to the Nine Suggestions instead of the Ten Commandments.....have no trouble so doing.


8 posted on 10/05/2008 6:17:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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Doug Kmiec must have been promised a nomination to the Supreme Court!


10 posted on 10/05/2008 6:21:33 AM PDT by ethics
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Perhaps it is time to revisit Pope Benedict's address to the White House:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N16338045.htm
 
 

11 posted on 10/05/2008 6:22:03 AM PDT by littlehouse36 (Just the formula, ma'am.)
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Actually...make that Eight Suggestions.Numbers 5 and 6 have been dropped completely by the Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi wing of the Church.
12 posted on 10/05/2008 6:22:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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The fact that this is even a subject for an article sickens me.

LLS


13 posted on 10/05/2008 6:26:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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“Being ‘right’ on taxes, education, health care, immigration and the economy fails to make up for the error of disregarding the value of a human life,” the bishop wrote.

Well Bish, they aren't right on any of those issues.

Taxes: They want high taxes which directly cut into your bottom line at the collection plate to do the social work you should be doing(of course they give you money as Catholic Charities, don't they)

Education; if they were right they would allow vouchers for Catholic schools. Wouldn't they?

Healthcare: They want the Canadian/English/Cuban form of single payer/universal health care. AKA "Commie-care" You seem OK with that.

in the name of "social justice"

Just a Catholic word for Communism. Where do you think you are...Italy?

14 posted on 10/05/2008 6:26:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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One of my favorite bumper stickers is that you can not be Catholic and pro-abortion.


15 posted on 10/05/2008 6:28:46 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I'm voting against Obama. McCain sucks less.)
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The real bias Gwen Iifil exhibited the other night (omission) was on one of Sarah’s strongest issues. She knew that SP is a witness to life as opposed to mealy mouth Biden. All this cycle the media has downplayed abortion as an issue but they know she wins this one because for the first time we have a candidate who radiates authentic Motherhood (Todd reflecting authentic Fatherhood) and justifies the difficult choice in service to Life. I was VERY impressed when she called Trig a “Sign of Hope”, this is a very deep reality that only the humblest,most loving people KNOW.


17 posted on 10/05/2008 6:38:54 AM PDT by lmc12
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It’s nice to know that the NYT is the final source of authority for Catholics...sarc


18 posted on 10/05/2008 6:40:04 AM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan.)
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It’s not a “fight”

Not even close!

Why is it that nuns seem to be pro Obama? Bitter women?

How can any Catholic condone Obama’s record on ending innocent life before it is born and...even after.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 6:40:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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I’m in a red part of a red state and I was asked to pray that the election leads to peace and justice this morning at Mass... For those who don’t know - Peace and Justice are code words for liberation theology, anti-capitalism, pro-socializm. Add to this the feminazi modification of the Nicene Creed and the senility of the priest who repeated whole parts of the Mass because he forgot where he was and I’m not feeling very serene this morning. Oh, and the homily which was really sad, this man needs to be retired - the Church is a 2000 year human experience - no mention of Jesus Christ. arrrggg!!!!!


24 posted on 10/05/2008 7:01:04 AM PDT by Mercat
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"To underscore the point, a nun is collecting the signatures of prominent Catholic leaders there for a newspaper advertisement reminding those who may be wary of voting for Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the Democratic nominee for president, that the church also considers racism a sin that threatens the dignity of life.

“Here in Scranton, racist attitudes often prevent us from seeing all of our fellow citizens and candidates for public office as God’s children,” says the petition, circulated by Sister Margaret P. Gannon, a professor at Marywood University."


Well, there it is again:
If you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist. It couldn't possibly be that you are a believing, orthodox Catholic who takes the Church's teaching to heart!

Let me guess, Sister Gannon has short white hair and wears a polyester suit instead of a habit.
33 posted on 10/05/2008 7:41:24 AM PDT by mom3boys
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If there is any question at all it shows there is a lack of sincerity on the part of those who are confused.

Killing babies, and supporting those who do, disqualifies one as a Catholic, and as a person Catholics should support. PERIOD.

People who want to claim they are Catholics but want to make up their own rules are the same type of people who say they love America but want to change everything about it.

They are people who buy into mushy headed thinking like this:

“America is the greatest country on earth. Vote for me so we can change it.”


39 posted on 10/05/2008 8:00:20 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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In addition to Martino these bishops have spoken out against abortion in general -- although remarks were initially directed at Pelosi et al.

livius, show this to your pastor too!

Updated: American Bishops who have spoken against Pelosi

Here is the complete list of American bishops who have responded to Nancy Pelosi's comments so far:
  1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver was the first American bishop to respond
  2. ... Bishop James Conley, his auxiliary, joined him
  3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington DC responded twice, first in a press release and second in a statement to The Hill. He has also appeared on Fox News, I am told.
  4. Cardinal Justin Regali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities, issued this statement through the USCCB website...
  5. ... Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine, joined him
  6. Cardinal Edward Egan of New York publised a strongly worded statement of his own
  7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo issued a letter correcting Pelosi's claims
  8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh and...
  9. ... Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs have chimed-in
  10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio, CNA reports has added his voice ...
  11. ... Bishop Oscar Cantu, his auxiliary bishop, has joined him
  12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville has published an extensive letter
  13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa has a detailed response
  14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas has joined the USCCB's efforts
  15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin is on-board
  16. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston mentions the USCCB on his blog
  17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando has written at length
  18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis challenges Pelosi's statement
  19. Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, President of the US Bishops, has weighed-in
  20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker, OR publishes in the Catholic Sentinel
  21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse, WI responds in a word document
  22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland, OH will comment in his September 5th column (PDF)
  23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City, IA has one of the very best responses I've read
  24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco has invited Pelosi to a "conversation"
  25. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn: "Judging the Candidates"

{Last updated on September 10th.}

Notes:

  • Previous #23 has been removed. Bishop Joseph Gossman of Raleigh, NC is actually the bishop emeritus, and the new bishop, Michael Burbidge has not, to my knowledge, made a personal statement.
  • Previous #16 has also been removed, it was an erroneous duplication of current #13.
  • #26 was added September 10th, although he published his column September 6th

54 posted on 10/05/2008 6:18:35 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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