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OJ Simpson no longer a touchstone of US racial politics (Because to think so might hurt Obama)
Guardian ^ | 4 Oct 08 | Caroline Davies

Posted on 10/05/2008 2:37:50 AM PDT by SkyPilot

In 1995 many African-Americans saw OJ Simpson as an innocent man persecuted because of the colour of his skin. This time, he is unlikely to receive similar sympathy.

Thirteen years to the day of his sensational acquittal on charges of double murder, the conviction of OJ Simpson for conspiracy to kidnap and armed robbery looks unlikely to have the same dramatic impact.

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But, will it provide the same cultural flashpoint that drew huge crowds to the court and polarised black and white American back in 1995?

This time, the court room was barely half full for most of the three week trial.

Perhaps it was because America is more preoccupied with the presidential election campaign, or consumed by the economic crisis. Perhaps it is because the victims in this case, two middle-aged memorabilia dealers who are said to have tried to cash-in by attempting to sell their stories to the media, are themselves less sympathetic.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; oj; race; simpson
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To: Paleo Conservative

Funny thing that OJ never embraced his blackness until he was arrested for murder.
I’d be surprised if blacks protect him.


21 posted on 10/05/2008 6:41:30 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SkyPilot

Were OJ’s children at the trial? I read about his sister being there and caterwauling when he was being carried away. But no mention of his two older children (including the older boy who conspiracy theorists say really killed Ron and Nicole) or his two younger children. Have they all four just moved on? I would like to think Nicole’s children are on friendly terms with the Brown side of the family.


22 posted on 10/05/2008 6:43:08 AM PDT by Burkean
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To: SkyPilot
I'd guess your typical black person doesn't much like kidnappers and armed robbers. Strikes too close to home. Kill a couple of whiteys though and it's apparently a different story.
23 posted on 10/05/2008 6:51:48 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SampleMan
I don't believe it. Blacks thought he was just as guilty as whites did. However, the majority of blacks appeared to take more joy in the perception of sticking it to whitey, than in doling out justice.

I was at a gym when the OJ jury nullification "verdict" was televised 13 years ago.

I was one of the few white people at the gym. The crowd around the TVs above was huge. They were cheering, screaming, jumping up and down, and pumping their fists when the not guilties were being read.

Black women next to me were shouting obscenities and making unbelievable evil comments about Nicole, Ron Goldman, and Caucasians.

It is something I will never forget.

24 posted on 10/05/2008 7:39:49 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Glenn
Good grief. The man just wanted his stuff back.

Because OJ was hiding all of his money from Fred Goldman, who won a $35 Million dollar law suit - Simpson had to be very shady and diabolical with his money.

He basically went "financially underground" and hide his millions in off shore accounts. Fred Goldman was relentless, and hired people to trail OJ's shenanigans.

What Simpson would do for quick cash was deal in sport memorabilia, and also sell his signature.

He traded in some of his own property for cash. Were these items legitimately his? Who knows? There were traded back and forth all the time, sold on E-Bay, and at auctions and shows.

The basic point is this: if they were his items, he could have gone to the police, but he didn't. Do you know why? Fred Goldman would have found out about it and seized the items and the money.

Moreover, you don't "get your stuff back" by bringing in thugs with guns, holding people at gunpoint, and threatening them.

What planet do you live on?

Fred Goldman got his revenge after all.


25 posted on 10/05/2008 7:47:57 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: bushfamfan
Like I always say, the Demonrats are the party of the OJ jury. It says it all and is a perfect description.

Very well put.

26 posted on 10/05/2008 7:58:33 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Joe Boucher
o if somehow I came in to have some of your crap,

Guess I really should have put a sarcasm tag in that post. I didn't think it needed one at the time.

27 posted on 10/05/2008 8:39:03 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: SkyPilot
What planet do you live on

Please see post #27.

28 posted on 10/05/2008 8:40:08 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Glenn

Good grief. The man just wanted his stuff back.

When you give something up by court order, it is no longer yours. It belonged to Goldman. OJ had no legal right to it what so ever.


29 posted on 10/05/2008 9:23:51 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
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To: SkyPilot

Kinda how one might imagine a Klan meeting is like, huh?


30 posted on 10/05/2008 9:34:57 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: Glenn

sorry,
But still I come in to contact with folks who defend Mr. Simpson saying he was innocent and just another black guy done in by whitey.


31 posted on 10/05/2008 10:04:32 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher
But still I come in to contact with folks who defend Mr. Simpson saying he was innocent and just another black guy done in by whitey.

Not for what he did this time. He's on his own and they know it.

32 posted on 10/05/2008 10:56:03 AM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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To: pray4liberty

Good.


33 posted on 10/05/2008 11:10:14 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher
O.J. is a real badass and maybe some of his biggest fans are seeing for themselves that he could well be guilty of those murders, after all...and they sanctioned it by supporting him.

If some of them are Christians I hope they confess that sin to God.

34 posted on 10/05/2008 11:14:40 AM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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To: SkyPilot
If you lose you stuff an throw a fit,

there is no way we will acquit.

35 posted on 10/05/2008 11:17:53 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: Glenn

Ha - sorry!


36 posted on 10/05/2008 1:51:14 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Joe Boucher

“But still I come in to contact with folks who defend Mr. Simpson saying he was innocent and just another black guy done in by whitey.”

I think there are factions who almost always sides opposite to law enforcement. For them, it isn’t even a racial thing. It is an anti-establishment issue.

These types can come from both the right and from the left.


37 posted on 10/05/2008 1:52:34 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Glenn
Guess I really should have put a sarcasm tag in that post. I didn't think it needed one at the time.

These days, the Obamanites are flooding FR and other Conservative blogs.

You might be reading a post, and see someone say something like:

"I don't see what all the fuss is about? So, a bunch of children and their parents wanted to make a video about Obama and sing his praises. What is so strange and bad about that? Obama will change the World."

38 posted on 10/05/2008 1:54:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Obama will change the World.

But...first, he'll change America into a third-world Muslim African dictatorship.

39 posted on 10/05/2008 2:49:58 PM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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To: truth_seeker

Still when there’s trouble they call a cop.


40 posted on 10/05/2008 2:55:41 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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