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Civilian National Security Force?
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Posted on 10/04/2008 8:57:57 PM PDT by pdq

I stumbled across this when I was searching for the source of the Obama Youth Regiment video someone posted on here.

What is Obama talking about with this Civilian National Security Force?

What is happening here? I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this came right out of Obamas mouth. Why on earth do we need a Civilian National Security Force that is as well funded as the United States military? In case any of you capitalist pigs says something that the One doesn't like? Seriously, what is this guy doing?


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hitleryouth; obama
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To: RavenATB
How safe do you think your personal identity will be once...

The thought has crossed my mind. But better me - an ole great granny - than being quiet now and letting this all befall my kids, grandkids - and maybe 7 generations before we were free again...

21 posted on 10/04/2008 9:58:54 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: pdq

Civilian National Security Force = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi


22 posted on 10/04/2008 9:59:06 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: infowarrior

No, this is his Sturmabteilung (SA), the Obama Truth Squads are the Schutzstaffel. Those freaky kids were the Obamajugend.


23 posted on 10/04/2008 10:15:47 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: Joan Kerrey

“There are just too many constitutional barriers present which makes the military much harder to activate against the civilian population.”

And our West Point-trained officers would hopefully refuse to follow illegal and unconstitutional orders. Remember, their duty to uphold the Constitution overrides their duty to obey the President, and perhaps this is something they need to think about if Obama should actually win.


24 posted on 10/04/2008 10:19:01 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: infowarrior

“WE have seen this kind of thing before. It was, as I recall, called the Waffen SS. Make of that, what you will...”

No, the Waffen SS was actually a military unit that conducted itself honorably. The civilian SS ran the concentration camps, kicked in people’s doors, and so on.

At what point does Godwin’s Law cease to apply to discussions of Obama, by the way?


25 posted on 10/04/2008 10:21:08 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: bethtopaz

Only God is the “Alpha and the Omega”- To insinuate anything else is audacity of the worst sort..


26 posted on 10/04/2008 10:35:51 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Winged Hussar
The Waffen SS was not always so honorable:

“Hitler had already told his Wehrmacht generals that the attack on Russia was to be carried out with “unprecedented, unrelenting and unmerciful harshness.” The Waffen-SS made its name in Russia for its unflinching resolve in attack and its cruelty to prisoners and civilians.”

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/waffen-ss.htm

With over a million men under arms in the Waffen SS, I sure most were honorable, but their devotion to their leaders ideals often twisted them. As we head into these dark times, I have to think what would become of us and our ideals, following humiliating war losses and economic catastrophe.

27 posted on 10/04/2008 10:46:37 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Winged Hussar

Well, except for the routine massacre of both military and civilian prisoners throughout the war, I guess the waffen ss did perform pretty honorably during the war.

/s (do I really need to?)


28 posted on 10/04/2008 10:47:14 PM PDT by rsquare (--- UHH...UHH...UHH...bama ---)
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To: Salamander

The only reason I’ll ever give De Fuhrer a high angle salute is if I’m holding my life insurance policey in my hand...

...And the angle will only be high if he is standing well above me...


29 posted on 10/04/2008 10:47:37 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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To: pdq

Civilian National Security Force?

No.

Orwellian National Security Force.


30 posted on 10/04/2008 10:50:11 PM PDT by Fichori (ironic: adj. 1 Characterized by or constituting irony. 2 Obamy getting beat up by a girl.)
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To: Frank_2001

Wow....I’ll say.


31 posted on 10/04/2008 10:51:51 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: Salamander

Interesting you bring this up. I was having a talk with my best friend the other day and mentioned that I heard Obama say in one of his speeches he wanted a civilian force as well trained and well armed as our military..and my question to her was why? She is so not into seeing what is going on here...I said why would we need a civilian force the likes of our US Armed Forces when we have police, CHP, sheriffs and fire fighters..not to mention our National Guard units...
I said to her that Obama is friendly with Crazy Louie and what does he show up with as body guards? Could it be that Obama would lock up the SEcret SErvice and replace them with the Nation of Islam thugs you see around this guy Shabazz and Louie the Mother Ship Commander?
Hitler started with his rather benign looking Hitler Youth. I had a lady work for me some years ago whose mother hid her and her brother and risked the camps to keep her kids OUT of Hitler Youth.
Obama has these little kids in blue tee shirts singing about how Obama is going to change things...and his Youth Rgt with the guys showing just what that knuckle dapping thing is..a type of salute if you ask me. I think this country should be very very concerned about this guy.
I honestly think Obama is puppet for someone else..he can’t give a talk with out an ear piece of teleprompter ..so who is pulling the strings for this elegant mouth piece?
I hope to high heaven McC pulls the rugs out on this in his debate..he has got to stop fooling with this guy and deck his campaign or we will see that goofy logo as our national ensign before it is over.


32 posted on 10/04/2008 10:53:03 PM PDT by celtic gal (have you seen the utube about Camp Obama's Youth Rgt? you will see that knuckle thing is a salute.)
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To: pdq

We already have a civilian national security force. It’s initials are N-R-A.


33 posted on 10/04/2008 11:05:50 PM PDT by tanuki (Summum ius summa injuria. (The more law, the less justice))
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To: vaudine

I have seen a video on line about this..it starts with sort of classical music and original pictues of the Hitler Youth and then goes into that kid singing about how Obama is going to change things..


34 posted on 10/04/2008 11:10:33 PM PDT by celtic gal (have you seen the utube about Camp Obama's Youth Rgt? you will see that knuckle thing is a salute.)
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To: antioscar

We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.

Someone should ask him what those national security objectives ARE and WHO set them. I really think we should get some answers. Be nice to see the question raised in the debate. What’s the National Guard for?


35 posted on 10/04/2008 11:14:07 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: Frank_2001; Salamander
The favorite quote of the Sturmabteilung, or SA: "All opposition must be stamped into the ground."

This is pretty creepy, watching somebody advocate something like this. It is almost like we are caught in a repeat cycle.

I just hope and pray that we can get off this road before it is too late.

36 posted on 10/04/2008 11:14:38 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: Winged Hussar

“There are just too many constitutional barriers present which makes the military much harder to activate against the civilian population.”

Abe Lincoln and Gen. Sherman.

[and no, I do NOT want this to devolve into a “Civil War/Treason/State’s Rights/Secession” thread...the point is that Lincoln believed he was justified and Zero will, too.]


37 posted on 10/04/2008 11:14:40 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: celtic gal; shibumi

“so who is pulling the strings for this elegant mouth piece?”

So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I’ll lay your soul to waste
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guessed my name
But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

[just my opinion]

All our times have come.
Here, but now there, gone.


38 posted on 10/04/2008 11:21:24 PM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: pdq

Be a good Nazi citizen and show me your papers! Don’t you know not to question the actions of our savior and lord Obama the fuhrer. This kind of insanity you display can lead to midnight trip to the indoctrination camp with complimentary gas baths and everlasting 8 feet deep mud beauty treatment.


39 posted on 10/04/2008 11:55:36 PM PDT by avant_garde
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To: Winged Hussar

So...if you’re 0bama, you reduce the size of the military that is bound to the Constitution and replace it with your ubiquitous Civilian soldiers, who are bound to only you. Wasn’t that easy? This guy could not make it any more obvious what he is, yet half the country wants him elected. I ignored 0bama for a long time as I just didn’t think this junior senator out of the blue could be a serious candidate. Then in the first speech I heard of his, he said, “the culture wars are OVER” — implying the Left had won. I thought, oh, really?? Says who?


40 posted on 10/05/2008 1:24:55 AM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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