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Bankruptcy, not bailout, is the right answer
CNN ^ | September 29, 2008 | Jeffrey A. Miron

Posted on 09/29/2008 5:10:12 PM PDT by Swing_Thought

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Miron. Making sense.
1 posted on 09/29/2008 5:10:12 PM PDT by Swing_Thought
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To: Swing_Thought

The guy is absolutely right.


2 posted on 09/29/2008 5:12:52 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Swing_Thought
Eliminate those policies that generated the current mess. This means, at a general level, abandoning the goal of home ownership independent of ability to pay. This means, in particular, getting rid of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, along with policies like the Community Reinvestment Act that pressure banks into subprime lending.

As long as the Dims have control of congress this will never happen.

To have any chance the Republicans would need 60 votes in the Senate.

The Dims fight tooth and nail for every socialist program.

We all know how poorly the Republicans fight to eliminate them it is sad to say.

3 posted on 09/29/2008 5:15:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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The current mess would never have occurred in the absence of ill-conceived federal policies.

Dont bother to mention the lowering of lending practices in 1999 under Clinton or the attempt by the GOP in the banking committee for oversight when Maxine Waters and Barney Frank said everything was A-OK with Fast Freddy.

4 posted on 09/29/2008 5:17:01 PM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: Swing_Thought

From Miron’s lips to my ears. Send this to every tax-payer you know.


5 posted on 09/29/2008 5:17:44 PM PDT by Just_an_average_Joe
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To: Swing_Thought

VERY COMPELLING argument. Thank you for sharing this article.


6 posted on 09/29/2008 5:23:25 PM PDT by Trust but Verify ( All others Palin comparison!!!)
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To: Swing_Thought

CNN?


7 posted on 09/29/2008 5:23:31 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Swing_Thought

I know of a bank that sold off its sub-prime paper early on (for about 25 cents on the dollar). It took a major hit, but it acted responsibly to try to fix its own problem. It didn’t go to the government for a bailout.

I also know many, many people who pay their mortgages reliably. They saved their money and didn’t buy more than they could afford.

I know many people who use credit responsibly, pay off the balances each month, or keep it to a minimum.

I even know many college students who are working their way through school without student loans. They work part time jobs, share expenses, and do whatever else is necessary to avoid building up debt.

Now why in the world should these responsible people be forced to subsidize the irresponsible? Answer: they shouldn’t.


8 posted on 09/29/2008 5:24:49 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Voting proudly for GOVERNOR Palin for VP!)
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Bankruptcy, not bailout, is the right answer

Bankrupt American - an awful lot of economical crap for many years.

Bankrupt Congress - pass a crap sandwich (and make American taxpayers pay for it.)

9 posted on 09/29/2008 5:25:52 PM PDT by Libloather (September is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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[Miron. Making sense. ]

Yup. The one thing I’d add is that the Fed should stop printing money, purposely devaluing the dollar. A good part of the excessive lending depended on low interest manufactured money. There are multiple causes for the crash, most of which are anti free market and anti hard money.


10 posted on 09/29/2008 5:30:30 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Swing_Thought
getting rid of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, along with policies like the Community Reinvestment Act that pressure banks into subprime lending.

As usual, look in the last two paragraphs to find the evidence of culpability for the Dems....without mentioning them, I might add.

11 posted on 09/29/2008 5:37:13 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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Miron is an ignorant boob who did not do his research.

in 2005 the federal gov restructured bankruptcy law to eliminiate lien stripping.

This accelerated the bundling of mortgages.

The home owner was suddenly prevented from lienstripping of the unsecured portion of the loan.

lenders no longer riskeed the decrease in collateral if a valuation was a fraud promoted by the lender.


12 posted on 09/29/2008 5:38:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I just emailed my senators that any solution which does not eliminate the racist Community Reinvestment Act is doomed to fail. My representative (Lloyd Doggett) is hopeless, but I will email him anyway.

You can’t expect the government to buy bad paper with one hand, and continue to force banks to give bad mortgage loans to undeserving minority members with the other hand.

Why don’t the Republicand stand up for what is right?


13 posted on 09/29/2008 5:39:52 PM PDT by Bertram3 (Racism is wrong. Affirmative action is racism.)
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The government implicitly promised these institutions that it would make good on their debts, so Fannie and Freddie took on huge amounts of excessive risk.

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Further, the current credit freeze is likely due to Wall Street's hope of a bailout; bankers will not sell their lousy assets for 20 cents on the dollar if the government might pay 30, 50, or 80 cents.

The author has a problem. He admits the government made a promise to make good on debts yet, he argues against the government making good on it's commitment.

14 posted on 09/29/2008 6:05:52 PM PDT by fso301
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The government implicitly promised these institutions that it would make good on their debts,

No it didn't. Even if it did, only a fool would rely on an "implicit" promise when dealing with millions and billions of dollars. Wall street isn't that stupid. They new exactly what they were doing with the FM's. Everything was fine until it became impossible to defraud them any more.

15 posted on 09/29/2008 6:21:04 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Swing_Thought

Clarity.

Go to work.
Pay your bills.
Have a beer.
You’ll be fine.
America.


16 posted on 09/29/2008 6:36:35 PM PDT by four more in O 4 (Stupid hippies.)
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To: GoLightly

I wondered if anybody else noticed that the CNN money people have been amazingly ANTI-bailout all weekend! Lou Dobbs was practically frothing at the mouth... will wonders never cease....


17 posted on 09/29/2008 6:38:10 PM PDT by Ike (My idea of election reform - blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
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To: Swing_Thought
MAIN TAKEAWAY AT THE VERY END OF THE ARTICLE (by the way it will never happen if the Democrats are in control:

" So what should the government do? Eliminate those policies that generated the current mess. This means, at a general level, abandoning the goal of home ownership independent of ability to pay. This means, in particular, getting rid of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, along with policies like the Community Reinvestment Act that pressure banks into subprime lending.

The right view of the financial mess is that an enormous fraction of subprime lending should never have occurred in the first place. Someone has to pay for that. That someone should not be, and does not need to be, the U.S. taxpayer."

18 posted on 09/30/2008 7:18:30 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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This was the best explanation of the "no bailout" position I have read. I commend it to other readers.

Once housing prices declined and economic conditions worsened, defaults and delinquencies soared, leaving the industry holding large amounts of severely depreciated mortgage assets.

The only point he made that I would quibble with just a little is leaving this idea out there that housing prices magically declined, somehow in a vacuum. (That may not have been Mirren's point, and I realize he can't go into every tangent in this extremely well-crafted and tight piece, but it is a hanging inference.)

Housing prices declined BECAUSE of the subprime lending mess. Cheap and crazy money made the entire housing and real estate industry go wild, which led to unsustainable price increases and massive overruns in inventory. When the foreclosures began to be added to that picture, the camel's back broke.

19 posted on 09/30/2008 8:11:03 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Fly the flag!)
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I’m certainly starting to have more confidence that he is.


20 posted on 09/30/2008 8:11:54 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Fly the flag!)
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