Posted on 09/29/2008 4:24:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I already told my son that if Obama wins he should rethink his military career.
LOL
They may lean to the left in the voter booth as they pull the Republican lever. Folks in the military have been dissed by Obama, and they know it better than anybody else. Military folks are honorable people with a lot of brain power; they get their revenge through legal means: the voting booth.
IIRC, in the extremely close 2000 presidential election the Democrats in FL did everything possible by hook or crook to keep military absentee ballots from coming in from overseas in time to be counted in that state's hotly disputed vote count.
Of course the donkey party diehards are still disputing that FL vote count and accusing Republicans of vote fraud in a state which the liberal media spent millions in the years that followed trying to prove Republican vote fraud and failed miserably to do so.
We're in the thick of reconstruction because level-headed people have almost eliminated the war zone environment.
I don't think the military people here are driven any differently from the ones back home.
I call total BS on any notion that 0bama would even come close to winning the military vote.
My nephew is home for two weeks from Iraq and he says the military can’t stand Obambi.
I trust my nephew’s on-the-ground knowledge more than the MSM’s lies.
Ah. I haven’t met them yet. Race seems to be a major driving factor for Obama supporters, and there are more than a few guilty ________ (fill in skin color) officers who are easily offended. I had one guy in my career course class who said he found term “haji” to be offensive. I told him I found his face offensive. He left me alone.
Slightly more people in the military community may vote for Obama than for was the case for Gore and Kerry, especially if you include military spouses (mainly wives) who are heartily fed up with the “one and a half years away, one year at home” deployment cycles. Even so, the title of the article completely distorts reality. This is the way the Left tries to persuade the undecided voter that voting Democrat is not a betrayal of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.
Unfortunately there are plenty of military who support Obama, although not nearly a majority. But if the MSM is looking for them, they are definitely there. Remember that the vast majority of troops are 18-22 and not very politically astute. They are also tired of being deployed away from their young families, and Obama represents CHANGE. Also, a LOT of support troops are black. And, yes, a lot of them support Obama. Take this from someone who is living on a military base in Georgia.
Allegra, you are fortunate to work with America’s finest every day, and I don’t doubt for a minute that everyone over there hates Obama. My husband has served in a SpecOps unit for 10 years, and 99 percent of the guys he works with, and their families, are die-hard McCain supporters. But these guys are patriots and soldiers through and through. Unfortunately not everyone in uniform is a patriot. I’ll leave it at that.
I’ll venture a comment or two without bothering to read the BS.
Horse hockey.
Military folks unlike leftists, socialists, communists, marxists, dems, dodo birds, dimwits, morons, and the like, are if anything consistent and unchanging with the whims, and winds of CHANGE. Their stripes are not changing any time soon despite the author’s dream.
I’ll venture a comment or two without bothering to read the BS.
Horse hockey.
Military folks unlike leftists, socialists, communists, marxists, dems, dodo birds, dimwits, morons, and the like, are if anything consistent and unchanging with the whims, and winds of CHANGE. Their stripes are not changing any time soon despite the author’s dream.
AAAAAACK! The dreaded double!
Wishful thinking by the DBM. There have been a number of my fellow military people who are voting (R) for the first time in their lives. There are quite a few female military members with PUMA bumper stickers too.
I have breakfast with a few of them now and then. Nice people, good Soldiers. I'm not sure where the disconnect is. When they start up with the talking points, I give them a good-natured deflating, and they react like any other college kid when exposed to troubling facts. Deer in the headlights. ;-)
Also, black Soldiers favor Obama at the same rate as black civilians, or so I've seen. Easily at the 90+ range.
But *leaning* left? Hardly. If only the military voted, Obama wouldn't win a single state. He might not even carry DC. If that's how you define 'leaning', then your reasoning itself is leaning pretty hard.
This is relatively old news and is *technically* true. They are comparing dollars donated to Obama vs dollars donated to McCain by donors reporting themselves as active duty military.
Of course, the problem is that donations to Republicans were split in a very crowded field: Ron Paul, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson all got significant amounts of money. The Democrats were almost immediately narrowed down to just two: Obama and Clinton and Clinton got hardly any donations from active duty military. Obama got something like 95% of Democratic donations while McCain only got about 15% of Republican donations.
If you add up the numbers, about 60% of donations went to Republicans and 40% to Democrats, which, IIRC is in the range of normal.
The article implies that they are collecting new data: donations since the report I saw came out. Of course, that's going to be general election dollars, of which John McCain can legally get zero. Despite that, the ratio of McCain dollars to Obama dollars hasn't changed (it was 6:1 a few months ago when I saw the primary only numbers).
Well, I’ve been in over 35 years, and will NOT serve under another (d) CIC, especially this idiot. I’m afraid his goons will not allow the absentee ballots from abroad be counted again.
I wish I was as optimistic as you are, I think Obama will get 99.5% of the black vote and blacks will turn out for Obama in unprecedented numbers. The dems are registering blacks in wholesale lots in every big city, and well known blacks who have made conservative statements or have implied that they were not in lockstep with prominent black Democrats in the past are saying they will vote for Obama.
That's understandable when you consider that blacks feel they are still being discriminated against, and no that black has ever before been seriously considered for the highest office in the land. That is, unless you count the wishful thinking of some liberal Republicans who favored Colin Powell for a short time until he said he would never run for office.
What I can't understand is the higher than usual number of military personnel who back Obama, especially those at officer grade. I suppose that's because they're assuming that he will pull our forces out of the ME and elsewhere around the world's trouble spots and bring them home to a comfortable and safe stateside post. They are all volunteers and must have known going in that it was almost certain that they would be posted overseas, and that the odds were very high that their outfit would be sent to, or very close to, a combat zone for an extended tour of duty at some point in their hitch.
Don’t do that. If Obama wins, we will need the military more than ever. Remember, we survived Clinton.
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I would, indeed.
My oldest son was in the army under Clinton. I remember what it was like. He and his wife were told to apply for assistance when they has their baby, even though he worked 80+ hours a week. And his job was not an easy one.
It wasn’t until Bush that the military began to receive pay increases and benefits. Did I mention they had to pay the hospital bill for the birth of their daughter?
People wonder how and why the military did not have the necessary equipment, or that our Veteran’s hospitals were in such disarray.
I also remember how parents and families were treated. We were inconveniences. Under Bush all that changed. Even though my second son who is in the Air Force now is married and a father, when he was deployed overseas, I received all kinds of information of support as his parent.
What a difference a President makes. I do not want my son to put his life on the line for Obama as his commander in chief. We may have survived Clinton...but will we under Obama?
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