Posted on 09/25/2008 4:40:18 PM PDT by Zakeet
After days of intense bipartisan negotiations and meetings today at the White House, the deal to bail out staggered investment banks may be dying amid partisan finger-pointing.
Republicans blame Democrats. Democrats blame Republicans, and a key Democrat even pointed a finger at Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain.
House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., told Democratic colleagues that McCain's sudden heightened involvement in the negotiations has destroyed chance of an agreement, sources told ABC's George Stephanopoulos.
Frank compared McCain's involvement to "Richard Nixon blowing up the Vietnam peace talks in 1968."
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Thanks for the visual.
Bush + Dems + Socialism
Obama + Bush + Socialism
McCain - Bush + Conservatism
So- given all that- the market could tank some more just to threaten Congress.
The biggest problem I see (remember, I’m a civilian) is there’s no way to know how to value these holdings, mortgages or whatever they are. Mark to market? Someone could lose big time with that, right?
I was just channel surfing and there was an AEI guy on with Kudlow who was with OMB under Reagan. he said the best way he can think of is “discount cash”. Very smart fellow- he said all this fancy way of assigning values is part of the problem- go back to basics is what it sounded like...
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I don't trust Paulson -- he's a democrat, right? Why is he meeting with Senate democrats tonight, when the problem is with House Republicans?
Bush was horribly advised during the first part of the Iraq war, and he stayed with the generals who insisted that no more troops were needed. Well we can all see how the surge proved those generals wrong (read Bing West's "The Strongest Tribe" -- it's great). But Bush kept heeding their advice until it was almost too late (makes me appreciate McCain a lot more in hindsight).
So Bush is just putting forward what Paulson is advising him to do, and once again he accepting blindly that what he is being told is right. Bush misuses delegation -- that's his big problem -- he doesn't learn enough about the problem at hand to be able to make an informed decision when his advisors hand him something.
He must inhale thru his mouth a lot!
“It is also bizarre when the Dems are agreeing w/ Pres. Bush on this and the Republicans are fighting it. LOL, I have never seen anything like it.”
And I thought this election cycle would be a yawner...
Something tells me that Schmidt is in the room along with the other guys, with the ad in the can, waiting - itching - for the ok....but perhaps McCain doesn't want to go there yet. Schmidt wants to "TAKE THE SHOT! TAKE THE SHOT!!" but perhaps he doesn't have the go-ahead yet. Just my guess.
LOL! You guys are terrible!
( but correct! )
Prominent Democrats ran Fannie Mae, the same government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) that donated campaign cash to top Democrats. And one of Fannie Mae’s main defenders in the House – Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989 – was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive.
The news media have covered the relationship in the past, but there have been no mentions since 2005, according to Nexis and despite the collapse of Fannie Mae. The July 3, 1998, Reliable Source column in The Washington Post reported Frank, who is openly gay, had a relationship with Herb Moses, an executive for the now-government controlled Fannie Mae. The column revealed the two had split up at the time but also said Frank was referring to Moses as his “spouse.” Another Washington Post report said Frank called Moses his “lover” and that the two were “still friends” after the breakup.
Frank was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae, which is now under FBI investigation along with its sister organization Freddie Mac, American International Group Inc. (NYSE:AIG) and Lehman Brothers (NYSE:LEH) – all recently participants in government bailouts. But Frank has derailed efforts to regulate the institution, as well as denying it posed any financial risk. Frank’s office has been unresponsive to efforts by the Business & Media Institute to comment on these potential conflicts of interest.
While the relationship reportedly ended 10 years ago, Frank was serving on the House Banking Committee the entire 10 years they were together. The committee is the primary House body which along with the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) has jurisdiction over the government-sponsored enterprises.
While Moses served at Fannie Mae and was Frank’s partner, Frank was actively working to support GSEs, according to several news outlets.
In 1991, Frank and former Rep. Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., lobbied for Fannie to soften rules on multi-family home mortgages although those dwellings showed a default rate twice that of single-family homes, according to the Nov. 22, 1991, Boston Globe.
Even after the relationship ended, however, Frank was a staunch defender of Fannie Mae even as other experts suggested there were serious problems building in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
According to an article by Kathleen Day in the Oct. 8, 2003, Washington Post, Frank opposed giving the Bush administration the right to approve or disapprove business activities that “could pose risk to the taxpayers.” He told the Post he worried the Treasury Department “would sacrifice activities that are good for consumers in the name of lowering the companies’ market risks.”
Just a month before, Frank had aggressively thwarted reform efforts by the Bush administration. He told The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2003, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s problems were “exaggerated,” a gross miscalculation some five years later with costs estimated to be in the hundreds of billions.
Frank has also reaped campaign contribution benefits from Fannie Mae and its counterpart Freddie Mac. According a front page story in the Sept. 19, 2008, Investor’s Business Daily by Terry Jones, Frank has received $40,100 in campaign cash over the past two decades from the GSEs.
Frank is ranked 16th on a list that includes both houses of Congress and fifth among his colleagues in the House.
Frank was asked by CNN’s John Roberts on the Sept. 22, 2008 “American Morning” about this and his opposition to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Originally, he claimed he didn’t think the two GSEs were facing any problems when the issue first surfaced in 2003. He instead blamed the Republican-controlled Congress for their ultimate fall, failing to mention his friendly relationship with Fannie Mae and the contributions it had made to his campaign over the years.
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Rove said the Bush administration’s efforts to reform Fannie and Freddie were opposed by congressional Democrats – specifically Frank and Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.
“And I got to tell you, for five years, I was part of an effort at the White House to fight this and our biggest opponents on the Hill who blocked this every step of the way were people like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. And Fannie and Freddie are the $200 billion contagion at the center of this.”
Your face would look like that too if you spent years gerbil diving.
See above post.
Yea, how dull and unexciting McCain would be. That's what I thought.
there is the germ of an idea there...
we could all send tea bags to every member of congress, lots of them, every day.
Or, has that already been tried?
Do you think the American people should be told the truth about the state of our economy?
When (not if) they learn the truth, will they rise to meet the occasion?
I answer "yes" and "yes", honestly I don't think I could be a conservative and think anything else.
But some here on FR really seem to feel differently, I wonder why they aren't liberals?
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