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Bush Urges Quick Passage of Bailout Plan to Avert Recession
FoxNews ^ | September 24, 2008 | Staff Writer

Posted on 09/24/2008 6:42:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

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To: Alia
Respectfully submitted for your consideration:

“There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.” -—Ludwig Von Mises

121 posted on 09/25/2008 8:18:16 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night.)
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To: DRey
Wasn’t it something to have Colmes there and not one word of disagreement.

I couldn't believe my eyes.

I hope McCain talks to Newt.

That would be good, but don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen:^)

Cordially,

122 posted on 09/25/2008 8:32:32 AM PDT by Diamond (</O>)
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To: jmj3jude
I can't not stand that pompous ass Newt. Where was he when Bill Clinton changed the law in 1999. He is not a financial expert!

Fine. Perhaps you can explain why Newt's prescriptions are wrong-headed.

Cordially,

123 posted on 09/25/2008 8:44:43 AM PDT by Diamond (</O>)
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To: meandog
Ever hear of Abraham Lincoln?

Yea, I remember him...he threw away our constitution to go to war. The Civil War was his call. How does that relate to the disasters, terror attack, and financial demands Bush has had to contend with?

Bunk! He is elected to anticipate, be proactive and, most of all, LEAD.

He lead, but Congress and a lot of the nation didn't want to follow. No President snaps his fingers and gets anything done.

Al Qeida isn't "destroyed" it is currently threatening our servicemen and women in Afghanistan while its leader sits in a cave and puts out tapes about his ability to thwart our frail attempts to kill him.

Al Queda, instead of being active on an enormous scale, is relegated to the caves in Afghanistan. The only thing Bin Laden has been able to send to us is a postcard. That is effectively destroyed. Considering that on 9/10/01 hardly anyone in the US knew what Al-Queda was, that's pretty amazing. Especially fighting the Dems at the same time.

Ronald Reagan had a Cold War to deal with, an emplanation and growing communism in Latin American, a delapidated military that Carter left him, and Islamic kooks such as Moammar Kadaffi to take care of and HE SUCCEEDED! He had the Ayatollah and Saddam fighting one another; destroying each's Islamic infrastructure while he used the money gained from the arm sales to snuff out communism in Latin America.

As much as I love Reagan, he ran like a scalded dog from Lebanon. He gave up after 18 months on cutting government. After he cut taxes, he accepted tax increases. He left us with the largest deficits (by GDP) since WWII, much larger than Bush's deficits. He supported and signed amnesty for illegals. If Reagan was President today, you would be saying exactly the same things about him as you do GWB. I've seen your type before. I was a huge Reagan supporter inspite of his shortcomings, because I knew he did what was right for the nation as he saw it.

God bless him

Amen.

Propped up mainly by the Fed's intervention when we should have had more control of the credit market and part of the reason we're currently in this mess!

Sure, you wanted Bush to stand up and call for massive regulation of the credit industry. Fat chance...he couldn't get the nation to pay attention to Social Security, another catastrophe that could dwarf this one.

Ever hear of a VETO pen?

Who in their right mind would veto their own party's budget, knowing it would be overridden. This is one of the dumbest accusations against the President.

I expect him to LEAD and inspire America to his cause. He's failed to do it!

You just can't see it because he didn't lead in your direction.

misplaced loyalty about immediately firing folks (Rumsfeld, Cox, Bremer, Gen. Casey, Don Evans, Chertoff, O'Neill, et al)

I disagree. Almost all of his appointments were excellent, and I was proud to see him stand by them as the MSM crucified each in turn. Rumsfeld was awesome. The job of Bremer, Casey and the others was to win the war in Iraq with the smallest loss of American lives possible...they also had to do it on the cheap because of the shape of the military they were left with by Clinton.

They did a good job. You have no proof at all that any strategy employed would have had better outcomes. You are nothing but an armchair quarterback.

God only knows where we would be now if Gore or Kerry had been in the WH. Like I said, you should thank God for GWB.

124 posted on 09/25/2008 8:53:40 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: meandog

I’m with you brother. You said it correctly. I agree.


125 posted on 09/25/2008 10:17:42 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Dimocrats are Marxists and socialists. A shame that 50% of America identifies with them.)
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To: A.Hun
Ever hear of Abraham Lincoln? .... Yea, I remember him...he threw away our constitution to go to war. The Civil War was his call. How does that relate to the disasters, terror attack, and financial demands Bush has had to contend with?

Lincoln led the nation through the most perilous time of its history and in the most costliest war (in terms of lives and treasure). He held the nation together despite having to fight off a Radical Republican Congress and traitorous Copperhead Democrats, a Confederate army, an insubordinate general and a crazy wife. He stands as the greatest presidential leader in my history (BTW, I'm a thoroughbred Southern boy with five documented ancestors who fought against Mr. Lincoln)

Bunk! He (Bush) is elected to anticipate, be proactive and, most of all, LEAD. He lead (sic), but Congress and a lot of the nation didn't want to follow. No President snaps his fingers and gets anything done.

You were correct in saying "he lead" because that is what Bush is: DEAD WEIGHT!

Al Queda, instead of being active on an enormous scale, is relegated to the caves in Afghanistan. The only thing Bin Laden has been able to send to us is a postcard. That is effectively destroyed. Considering that on 9/10/01 hardly anyone in the US knew what Al-Queda was, that's pretty amazing. Especially fighting the Dems at the same time.

That's odd, considering that Bin Laden headed the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list BEFORE 9/11 (for USS Cole, the African Embassy bombing and other shenanigans). And if you believe that Al Qeida is "effectively destroyed" I have some shares in Fannie Mae you might be interested in purchasing.

As much as I love Reagan, he ran like a scalded dog from Lebanon. He gave up after 18 months on cutting government. After he cut taxes, he accepted tax increases. He left us with the largest deficits (by GDP) since WWII, much larger than Bush's deficits. He supported and signed amnesty for illegals. If Reagan was President today, you would be saying exactly the same things about him as you do GWB. I've seen your type before. I was a huge Reagan supporter inspite of his shortcomings, because I knew he did what was right for the nation as he saw it.

Reagan did what was required in Lebanon: Let the Israelis handle Ham mas/Hezbollah rather than spill more Marine Corps blood in a country absolutely devoid of control amidst total chaotic anarchy. It was and still is the correct move as, today, Lebanon, at least with the exception of a few Katusha rocket fire drills, is a lot less capable of threatening Israel.

God bless him Sure, you wanted Bush to stand up and call for massive regulation of the credit industry. Fat chance...he couldn't get the nation to pay attention to Social Security, another catastrophe that could dwarf this one. Ever hear of a VETO pen? Who in their right mind would veto their own party's budget, knowing it would be overridden. This is one of the dumbest accusations against the President.

Rrrrright...neither Kennedy or LBJ had any problem pushing Civil Rights legislation despite opposition (incidentally against Democratic opposition led by Southern Dems Gore, Hollings, Russell, Byrd, Eastland, Fulbright, etc., etc.) A president is elected to lead and inspire America and do the right thing; and not just to be a party man--like frat boy Bush!

You just can't see it because he (Bush) didn't lead in your direction.

Me and almost 80 percent of other Americans--have you looked at Bush's poll numbers lately?

I disagree. Almost all of his appointments were excellent, and I was proud to see him stand by them as the MSM crucified each in turn. Rumsfeld was awesome. thank God for GWB.

Nope "Autopenning Condolence Letters" Rummy was crummy and Bush is still a bum!

126 posted on 09/25/2008 10:23:05 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 130-Jan. 20--and counting)))
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To: Mad Dawgg
For all intents and purposes Jim and Suzy Citizen ARE THE MARKETS in this case.

It's easy to buy a mutual fund or some shares in Acme Corp. It's much harder to understand the inner workings of a liquidity crisis, the difference between solvency and liquidity, money-market finance, etc., which, I submit, was my point.

Our whole market economy is based on one single fact: "TRUST" if the trust in the markets and the banks and the dollar vanishes we are going to have a downturn that will make 1929 to 1945 look like a day in the park.

That's the stuff. The ones who brag about having no debt, financial holdings, cash in a jar, etc. don't seem to understand the domino effect involved.

127 posted on 09/25/2008 3:37:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: meandog

This is not a debate about whether Lincoln was a pos or not. For a modern President, Bush has been hit with the phone book.

The meeting today was what he has had to put up with for eight years....a nation split right down the middle. He has been told by his experts that the nation is on the verge of a meltdown, and is not going to be able to stop it. Critics like you have helped make that possible.

Al Queda will never be destroyed completely, because you can’t take out every Muslim, but Al-Queda might be 10% of the threat it was. That’s still dangerous, but nothing like they were. More than 50% of Muslims polled no longer support Al-Queda. That is maybe the most amazing thing of all. The eighteen months of mayhem at the height of the war turned Arab opinion. Wars are unpredictable, and this one has been managed well considering that.

By the way, Bush was able to get his tax cuts passed, and the War in Iraq passed with bipartisan support. LBJ had a bipartisan support for the Great Society because a large portion of the Republican Party were libs. Nothing like that exists today. What Bush accomplished with the pure partisanship in Congress is amazing.

However, that has nothing to do with vetoing his own party’s budget.

In Lebanon, Reagan did an abrupt about face. That’s as much as I will say because I respect him. I watched real time what he did and what the repercussions were.

Like I said, Bush has led where his convictions have pointed. If Americans are too stupid to realize that, they shouldn’t have elected him in the first place, even though we were desperate for an honest leader with strong convictions.

His approval rating reflects the 50% that voted for Kerry and Gore, and now, a lot of conservatives. The Dems never were right, and neither are his conservative critics.He’s going to do what he feels is right for the nation, in spite of it. It would be a lot easier to take a different path.

That is leadership whether you see it or not.

Regardless of how you feel about his leadership, your childish insults pointed at him and Rumsfeld would be better received on Democratic Underground. There are a great many posters that think just like you do, but had the honesty to say it eight years ago (or maybe they were brighter than you, since it took you all this time to figure out how horrible Bush is).


128 posted on 09/25/2008 6:38:46 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
Question: Do you ever read any other conservative journals or listen to any other commentators critical of Bush or are your conservative philosophies wrapped entirely wrapped around Bush lovers such as George Will and Ann Coulter? I ask this not as insult but as an attempt to understand why you believe the president is so great?

Bush just got rolled by the Democrats in the bailout attempt. He didn't offer many proposals other than the three-page provisional Bernanke and Paulson have worked out...it was basically a blank check to Wall Street to be shouldered on the backs of you and me and the rest of tax-paying Americans.

You can love Bush all you want but, to me, he's the epitome of his "Read My Lips" old man who wants more to be loved by everyone instead of leading.

Both Bush 41 and 43 squandered almost 90 percent approval ratings with such stupid stunts as pulling stalemates out of overwhelming military victories and bipartisan proposals that went no where while bending over for opposition party hacks and refusal to use the Veto power we entrusted them with...I suppose it is just part of their New England Maine Country Club mentality breeding, it sure ain't hard boil Southern (Texas) backbone. I cannot wait to see him booed out of office!

129 posted on 09/26/2008 5:57:29 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 130-Jan. 20--and counting)))
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