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US court: Monitoring Muslims was constitutional
AP via SFGate ^ | 9/24/8 | LARRY NEUMEISTER, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 09/24/2008 11:46:43 AM PDT by SmithL

A federal appeals court says it was constitutional for the United States to require visitors from two dozen Arab and Muslim countries and North Korea to register with immigration authorities.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan issued its ruling Wednesday in cases brought by several men who claimed their constitutional rights were violated.

The program was put in place after the Sept. 11, 2001 . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; aliens; jihadinamerica; judiciary; terrorists
Who Cairs?
1 posted on 09/24/2008 11:46:43 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Gee, we actually have a say in which and what manner a foreign national may visit this country?

Who’da thought!


2 posted on 09/24/2008 11:49:13 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Old and Busted: Barack 0bama, New Hotness: Sarah Palin)
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To: Boiling Pots

When is Obama going to register with the authorities?


3 posted on 09/24/2008 11:56:50 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Sarah Palin is an American Margaret Thatcher. Sarah Palin is a female Ronald Reagan)
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To: SmithL

Visitor’s have no Constitutional rights, Citizen’s do. We being a magnanimous country though often extend these rights to our guests, but that does not meant it is mandatory.


4 posted on 09/24/2008 12:06:28 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: SmithL

I care. I’m for equal treatment before the law, no matter where you’re from. Treat reasonable human beings reasonably humanely.

There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have visitors to the country check in in an emergency, or even periodically the check their credentials. Interestingly enough, the people involved in this particular case all have been deported for discrepancies in their visitor status.


5 posted on 09/24/2008 12:24:58 PM PDT by Dr_Zinj
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To: Dr_Zinj

How would it be inhumane in asking anyone not a citizen and who as a non-citizen has no Constitutional rights to register? Under US laws I don’t think everyone is equal in all regards... citizens and non-citizens are different. We are talking about registering not courtesy or kindness. They were not asked to under go surgery. Should I ever travel to another country I would hardly be offended to be asked to register. After 9/11 it is foolish for anyone not a citizen to be allowed free travel in the US with no monitoring of who they are or where they are!


6 posted on 09/24/2008 12:52:19 PM PDT by nclaurel (I think therefore I vote Republican.)
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To: SmithL

A good first step, late in coming. But the enemy within needs watching too. Non-citizen Muslims should be deported and citizen muslims watched.


7 posted on 09/24/2008 1:03:15 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Dr_Zinj

I’m sure your position makes you feel very good about yourself.

But this country, as are all Christian/Judeo countries—is under attack from a crowd of muslim fundamentalist terrorists. The have threated to kill Americans, they have been caught planning to kill Americans and they have killed Americans—on or own soil. Which part of “we intend to convert or enslave/kill all of you” do you not believe?

The precautions that are being taken are no different than were imposed in WW II. In fact, they are less stringent because we are not sending a targeted group to resettlement centers this time around.

It is my sincere hope that you never are harmed by one of these people you care so much about. You should think about that. 9/11 really did happen. Real people were killed just for showing up to work. Real people jumped out windows to their deaths to escape being burned alive. And real people defended themselves—and others not on the aircraft—by crashing it into a field near Pittsburgh, PA. And what about the US and other Coalition soldiers who are dying and being maimed so you can take this sanctimonious position. My son’s been in harm’s way four times. He’s been shot at and he’s killed so you can sit there and spout your nonesense.

Shame on you!


8 posted on 09/24/2008 1:27:21 PM PDT by dools007
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To: JimRed

Late in coming...and already gone.

From the article:

“The requirement has since been phased out”


9 posted on 09/24/2008 2:27:27 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: SmithL

Hugs and endless chocolate ice cream cones to the patriots on the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan.

Who woulda thought it? Judges in liberal NY standing up for American security.

These are the kind of people we hardly know about or acknowledge: “Tough men standing guard so our families can sleep sound at night.”

Thank you.


10 posted on 09/24/2008 4:44:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: dools007
Call it a day late, and a dollar short, but I did get back to you.

I come by my position honestly, with knowledge, experience, and the investment of 22 years of blood, sweat and tears as a retired military veteran. I, like your son, volunteered to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC. And I can also say that I volunteered to do so immediately after the Vietnam war when it wasn't popular. I've been on the receiving end of rifles and while I'm not happy about it, I still support everyone's rights under the Constitution until they, as individuals, prove otherwise.

The people killed in 9/11 attacks were killed by a minority group of people holding a form of Islamic beliefs. I spent the better part of a year in the area of operations during the first Gulf War. I had contact and conversations with dozens of Muslims during that time. Just because they are followers of Islam doesn't make them any more of a threat than all the Jewish or Christian people of the world. KKK members may all be fundamentalist Christians, that doesn't mean we should round up or monitor all Christians as possible terrorists.

So you can call me sanctimonious if that makes you feel better. You can say I'm talking nonsense. But at least I earned the right to my position. I can hold my head up and look you straight in the eye and say at least I've been true to the intent of the Constitution.

11 posted on 10/23/2009 7:39:15 AM PDT by Dr_Zinj
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