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Palin, McCain Disagree on Causes of Global Warming
Washington Post ^

Posted on 09/22/2008 7:55:37 PM PDT by Chet 99

No one, including Gov. Sarah Palin, questions that Alaska's climate is changing more rapidly than any other state's. But her skepticism about the causes and what needs to be done to address the consequences stands in sharp contrast to the views of her running mate, Sen. John McCain, and place her to the right of the Bush administration and several other Republican governors.

Although Palin established a sub-cabinet to deal with climate change issues a year ago, she has focused on how to adapt to global warming rather than how to combat it, and she has publicly questioned scientists' near-consensus that human activity plays a role in the rising temperatures.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008electionbias; climatechange; energy; environment; globalwarmingscare; junkscience; mccainpalin; pseudoscience
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To: Nathan Zachary

so buy a SUV if you don’t think there’s a problem.

But if most people decide to go ‘green’ after looking at the costs/benefits then that’s what the market will offer.


61 posted on 09/22/2008 9:36:44 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: John Valentine
Good point. I shouldn't have altered her statement, but I was surprised and disappointed to see her make it.

She will never be acceptable to the enviro nutjobs, so she shouldn't try to alleviate their hysterical state of mind caused by a needless fear of something that is not even happening.

62 posted on 09/22/2008 9:37:21 PM PDT by epow (""In selecting men for office let principle be your guide, Look to his character" Noah Webster, 1823)
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To: weegee

Wondering if the “wobble” as it has been noted in reads of my past has anything to do with “Climate Change”?

How many years does it take for the Earth to “Wobble” from one extreme to the other as it rotates on axis?

My curiosity due my recollection of the time (standard time) in my youth of the 1940’s, 1950’s when it would become too dark to play “ditch ‘em”, and other outdoors games. Seems to me at 4:30 PM PST we called it quits and went indoors for the night. These days remain light about an hour longer than those days PST.

It would seem to me that if the Earth “Wobbles” as it “rotates” on its axis that the Sun would be more intense in different locations on the surface of the Earth than it was before at those locations causing my weather to go someplace else, and someplace else’s weather to become my weather.

The natural tilting of the Earth could cause the Arctic to be more exposed to the Sun.

Just a thought.

Wondering if anybody can comment on the thought.


63 posted on 09/22/2008 9:38:05 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Chet 99

I’ve got a question for global warming folks?

when I was a boy driving down to Florida with my folks in the early to mid 1960s and going down US HWYs 90, 98, 19 and 41, we used to see out first groves as far north as Tallahassee and St Augustine...Lake City and so forth all the way down to Pre-Mouse central Florida when the main attractions were Cypress Gardens and Silver Springs, then the 1989 freeze killed everything north of I-4 and now since then one has to go as far south as Yeehaw Junction to find groves in numbers...that is 200 miles south of where they were used to be.

IF the earth is warming then why is this that the frost line is moving south.


64 posted on 09/22/2008 9:38:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sandra Bernhard should not be allowed around livestock unsupervised.)
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To: epow

She said that we need to ADAPT to the changes. That can be better home isulation (to keep in cool air from your AC or keeping out the cold). It can also be greenhouses, etc. to continue growing a food supply.

Still waiting for scientists to look at the historical record and tell us which period in the history of man had the OPTIMAL global temperature.

Should Greenland be lush or Africa? Who decides what is optimal?


65 posted on 09/22/2008 9:41:25 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: ari-freedom

In the case of low flow toilets, non-freon refridgeration/air conditioning systems, and fluorescent bulbs, the market is not given a choice in the matter, they are being legislated out of existence by inefficient alternatives.


66 posted on 09/22/2008 9:44:25 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: rockinqsranch
I don't know but I do have some concern over things like light noise over a large city like Houston. We are still experiencing massive power outages.

But I'd already observed how many birds were wide awake and chirping all night in large grocer parking lots (where the stores now closed by midnight, formerly 24 hour operation) but remained brightly lit all night. It was throwing off the birds’ own internal clocks.

I also have witnessed all sorts of stray water fowl (2+ foot tall cranes, etc.) walking around after 10pm at night by themselves nowhere near bodies of water.

At least with our city going dark for a week that activity has fallen off. Then again all of the birds have been spooked by losing their nests in the 100 mile an hour gusts of a hurricane.

67 posted on 09/22/2008 9:49:14 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Chet 99
her skepticism about the causes and what needs to be done to address the consequences stands in sharp contrast to the views of her running mate, Sen. John McCain, and place her to the right of the Bush administration

Wapo asserts publicly this is a political issue.

End global warming, vote for Palin.

68 posted on 09/22/2008 9:52:07 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Chet 99; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; ntnychik; gonzo

69 posted on 09/22/2008 10:05:18 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: wardaddy
IF the earth is warming then why is this that the frost line is moving south.

Good question, I would think that the enviros would have a plausible answer if global warming is a fact.

I was born and raised in south-central FL 71 years ago, and I well remember those large citrus groves as far up the east coast as Green Cove Springs across to the Gainesville area and on to the Gulf Hammock area on the west coast. I haven't been back there since 2001, but at that time I didn't see many groves along I-75 until just north of the Tampa Bay area.

BTW, as the grandson of a pioneer FL citrus grower I can tell you that a frost doesn't normally harm citrus. It takes a hard freeze to seriously damage a citrus crop, and even lower temperatures to kill or seriously damage a mature tree. I don't remember the exact formula, but IIRC something like 7 or 8 hours exposure to sub-freezing air will cause severe damage to oranges, but not necessarily to grapefruit. Also the sugar content of the fruit is another determining factor in the point where citrus is damaged. Of course that time period decreases rapidly as the temperature falls farther below the freezing point.

When I was a boy it was common on very cold mornings to see huge clouds of black smoke hovering in the freezing air above citrus groves. The foul smelling smoke was emanating from the hundreds or even thousands of kerosene-burning smudgepots that were lighted in the groves to hold off the chill on sub-freezing mornings. To put the cost of that practice into perspective in re current prices, kerosene cost about 8 to 10 cents per gallon at gas stations back then, and probably much less at the distributors for large quantity buyers such as citrus growers. In earlier years burning stacks of resinous pine wood called "fat lighterd" by FL natives was commonly used for the same purpose. Burning either of those fuels in the groves was outlawed many years ago because of the air pollution it caused.

I realize that none of this is relevant to the thread, but I am old enough now to mimic my own senior citizen relatives who also rambled on incessantly about uninteresting topics when I was a kid.

70 posted on 09/22/2008 10:33:06 PM PDT by epow (""In selecting men for office let principle be your guide, Look to his character" Noah Webster, 1823)
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To: Chet 99

Just one of many reasons why I prefer her over McCain.


71 posted on 09/22/2008 10:35:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Chet 99

I just sent the following email to columnist Juliet Eilperin:

“’scientist’s near-concensus’ please explain the use of that phrase. do you have a list of nearly all the scientists? what is the score? at what percentage is a near-concensus?”


72 posted on 09/22/2008 10:36:56 PM PDT by zwerni (*** PALIN/mccain 2008 ***)
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To: Chet 99

If McCain is smart, he should let Palin make the decisions concerning domestic policy. She might be inexperienced on foreign affairs, but she sounds like she’s far ahead of McCain concerning the non-foreign business.


73 posted on 09/23/2008 11:24:38 AM PDT by driftless2
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