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Ron Paul Endorses Baldwin for President
Campaign for Liberty ^ | Sept. 22, 2008 | Campaign for Liberty

Posted on 09/22/2008 2:34:38 PM PDT by SecAmndmt

A New Alliance - By Dr. Ron Paul

Friends - please read this new and important piece by Dr. Paul.

The press conference at the National Press Club had a precise purpose. It was to expose, to as many people as possible, the gross deception of our presidential election process. It is controlled by the powerful elite to make sure that neither candidate of the two major parties will challenge the status quo. There is no real choice between the two major parties and their nominees, only the rhetoric varies. The amazingly long campaign is designed to make sure the real issues are ignored. The quotes I used at the press conference from insider Carroll Quigley and the League of Women voters strongly support this contention.

Calling together candidates from the liberal, conservative, libertarian and progressive constituencies, who are all opposed to this rigged process, was designed to alert the American people to the uselessness of continuing to support a process that a claims that one’s only choice is to choose the lesser of two evils and reject a principle vote that might challenge the status quo as a wasted vote.

In both political education and organization, coalitions are worthwhile and necessary to have an impact. “Talking to the choir” alone achieves little. I have always approached political and economic education with a “missionary” zeal by inviting any group in on issues we agree upon.

This opens the door to legitimate discourse with the hope of winning new converts to the cause of liberty. This strategy led to the press conference with the four candidates agreeing to the four principles we believe are crucial in challenging the political system that has evolved over many years in this country.

This unique press conference, despite the surprising, late complication from the Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate, hopefully will prove to be historically significant.

This does not mean that I expect to get Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney to become libertarians, nor do they expect me to change my mind on the issues on which we disagree. In the meantime, why can’t we be friends, respectful of each other, and fight the corrupt process from which we suffer, and at the same time champion the four issues that we all agree upon which the two major candidates won’t address?

Many practical benefits can come from this unique alliance. Our cause is liberty —freedom is popular and is the banner that brings people together. Since authoritarianism divides, we always have the edge in an intellectual fight. Once it’s realized that the humanitarian goals of peace and prosperity are best achieved with our views, I’m convinced we win by working with others. Those who don’t want to collaborate are insecure with their own beliefs.

In the past two years at the many rallies where I talked and shook hands with literally thousands of people, I frequently asked them what brought them to our campaign. There were many answers: the Constitution, my consistency, views on the Federal Reserve, the war, and civil liberties. The crowds were overwhelmingly made up of young people.

Oftentimes I welcomed the diverse groups that came, mentioning that the crowd was made up of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Liberals and Progressives with each group applauding. Even jokingly, I recognized the “anarchists” and that, too, was met with some applause. In conversations, many admitted to having been Democrats and members of the Green Party and supporters of Ralph Nader, yet they came to agree with us on all the issues once the entire philosophy was understood. That’s progress.

Principled people are not shy in participating with others and will defend their beliefs on their merits. Liberals and progressives are willing to align themselves with us on the key issues of peace, civil liberties, debt and the Federal Reserve. That’s exciting and very encouraging, and it means we are making progress. The big challenge, however, is taking on the establishment, and the process that is so well entrenched. But we can’t beat the entrenched elite without the alliance of all those who have been disenfranchised.

Ironically the most difficult group to recruit has been the evangelicals who supported McCain and his pro-war positions. They have been convinced that they are obligated to initiate preventive war in the Middle East for theological reasons. Fortunately, this is a minority of the Christian community, but our doors remain open to all despite this type of challenge. The point is, new devotees to the freedom philosophy are more likely to come from the left than from those conservatives who have been convinced that God has instructed us to militarize the Middle East.

Although we were on the receiving end of ridicule in the reporting of the press conference, I personally was quite satisfied with the results. True revolutions are not won in a week, a month, or even a year. They take time. But we are making progress, and the momentum remains and is picking up. The Campaign for Liberty is alive and well, and its growth and influence will continue. Obviously the press conference could have been even more successful without the last-minute change of heart by the Libertarian Party candidate by not participating. He stated that his support for the four points remains firm. His real reason for not coming, nor letting me know until forty minutes before the press conference started, is unknown to me. To say the least, I was shocked and disappointed.

Yet in the long run, this last-minute change in plans will prove to be of little importance. I’m convinced that problems like this always seem bigger at the moment, yet things usually work out in the end. Recovering from the mistakes and shortcomings of all that we do in this effort is not difficult if the message is right and our efforts are determined. And I’m convinced they are. That’s what will determine our long-term success, not the shortcomings of any one person.

The Libertarian Party Candidate admonished me for “remaining neutral” in the presidential race and not stating whom I will vote for in November. It’s true; I have done exactly that due to my respect and friendship and support from both the Constitution and Libertarian Party members. I remain a lifetime member of the Libertarian Party and I’m a ten-term Republican Congressman. It is not against the law to participate in more then one political party. Chuck Baldwin has been a friend and was an active supporter in the presidential campaign.

I continue to wish the Libertarian and Constitution Parties well. The more votes they get, the better. I have attended Libertarian Party conventions frequently over the years.

In some states, one can be on the ballots of two parties, as they can in New York. This is good and attacks the monopoly control of politics by Republicans and Democrats. We need more states to permit this option. This will be a good project for the Campaign for Liberty, along with the alliance we are building to change the process.

I’ve thought about the unsolicited advice from the Libertarian Party candidate, and he has convinced me to reject my neutral stance in the November election. I’m supporting Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party candidate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008endorsements; campaignforliberty; chuckbaldwin; endorsement; ronpaul; thirdparty
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To: EternalVigilance

That’s right. Keyes didn’t want to join their stupid party anyhow. That’s why he was seeking to be their nominee for President.


121 posted on 09/23/2008 1:46:07 PM PDT by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: distressed
Here is a dose of reality that grown up Americans need to accept...the government cannot "fix" this problem...borrowing and printing hundreds of billions (trillions?) of dollars and throwing that into the market can, at best, only delay and make worse the inevitable

My comment was not about the current situation, but rather a comment on Ron Paul's skills as a leader. Intellectually sound, but not always able to convince anyone of the wisdom of his ways.

122 posted on 09/23/2008 1:48:01 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: distressed
"Actually, the platform looks like a strict adherance to the Constitution."

I skimmed the preamble kind of fast, and then scrolled down quickly, but yea, I don't see anything that appears to be against the Constitution either.

123 posted on 09/23/2008 1:52:52 PM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: distressed; mnehrling; Designer

mnehrling’s issue with their platform from what I can tell is that they seem to be in favor of many of these things not because of the Constitution but because of their religiosity. There is a lot of overlap, so I guess his issue is WHY do they support these policies.

Personally I think they do a pretty good job with Constitutional adherence, but a lot of people are weary of all the religious talk.


124 posted on 09/23/2008 2:08:15 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: distressed

It will likely cost trillions.

But I agree in that the market needs to handle this. These institutions should fail and we must understand that it will be painful in the short term. But like you said, the longer we put it off, the worse it’ll be.


125 posted on 09/23/2008 2:11:00 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: mlocher
Intellectually sound, but not always able to convince anyone of the wisdom of his ways.

Unfortunately, I think any politician who is intellectually sound and has the habit of telling the public the truth...will accurately be accused of being unpersuasive.

That is the nature of democratic politics...the charlatans and demogogues will always tell the public exactly what it wants to hear.

As Mencken wrote, "politicians will all promise every man, woman and child in the country whatever he, she or it wants. They’ll all be roving the land looking for chances to make the rich poor, to remedy the irremediable, to succor the unsuccorable, to unscramble the unscrambleable, to dephlogisticate the undephlogisticable, because they understand that votes are collared under democracy, not by talking sense but by talking nonsense"

126 posted on 09/23/2008 2:26:45 PM PDT by distressed
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To: distressed
Unfortunately, I think any politician who is intellectually sound and has the habit of telling the public the truth...will accurately be accused of being unpersuasive.

I understand the point you are making and I agree that there is some truth to it. Nonetheless, we have had some great conservative leaders, such as Reagan, who did not conform to the status quo and did great things. Oration skills were a must for him.

127 posted on 09/23/2008 2:29:32 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: distressed

Which is why we’re supposed to be a Republic.


128 posted on 09/23/2008 2:52:19 PM PDT by djsherin
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

He didn’t want to be their nominee enough to throw Israel, or any of the other freedom-loving people of the world, over the side. If he’d been willing, they would have nominated him no problem.

I’m glad we know the truth about them. And we do, because Alan is willing to walk down the hard paths when it’s necessary to do so.


129 posted on 09/23/2008 3:26:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Beware the Bear.)
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To: robert david

Paul has walked away with millions of dollars.

Running can pay very well when one doesn’t use the money sent to campaign.


130 posted on 09/23/2008 3:36:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' Barney Frank 9-10-03)
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To: SecAmndmt

Baldwin flirts with the Troofers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCun2nzZ17k


131 posted on 09/23/2008 4:19:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Beware the Bear.)
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To: SecAmndmt
Oh wait. He doesn't just flirt with the Truthers. He is one.

From his own website:

What Really Happened on 9/11?

Only One Presidential Candidate Asks...

Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin is the only candidate from a FEC- recognized party to challenge the official story of the tragedy of 9-11. Representing the largest and fastest-growing third party based on voter registration (Ballot Access news), Baldwin joins the growing list of military, scientific and other well-credentialed experts who agree,'the government's account of what happened that day simply does not pass the smell test'.

Baldwin, poised to attract voters who will not cast their votes for either 'Big Box' party candidate in November said, 'All across America voters are telling me, ''I am afraid of Obama and I don't trust McCain'.

Baldwin added, 'More and more people want answers . They want to know about government corruption, our loss of liberties and yes, what really happened on September 11th. The heartache this country endured won't be cured, but it will give us answers to some basic questions about why our security, intelligence and civil defense measures failed and why so many aspects of the government's version have been shown to be lies'.


For the record, their claim about being the third-largest party is bogus. Since the American Independent Party in CA affiliated with America's Independent Party nationally, the CP is at best the sixth or seventh largest party in the country based on voter registration. They are not, as they claim, the "fastest-growing party," they are the fast-shrinking party in America.

132 posted on 09/23/2008 4:35:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Beware the Bear.)
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To: EternalVigilance

On balance of issues, I’ll take trooferism and paleoconservative anti-war over: pro-abortionism, pro-sodomite “marriage”, the destruction of our sovereignty, the destruction of the dollar, illegal immigration, radical feminism, destruction of our military through globalist adventures overseas, the marginalization of Christianity in public life, the private federal reserve and its FRN “dollar”, gun grabbing, law breaking by public officials, foreign aid borrowed from China and given to ANYONE, treasonous entanglements and financing of our enemies for decades, phony professions of Christianity by elected officials, federal Planned Parenthood funding, Plan B funding, population control, assaults on property rights and the Bill of Rights, the income tax, the discharge of Michael New from the military, the Waco massacre, federal funding for the pagan academies AKA socialist government schools etc. etc.

Silly conspiracy theories just don’t trouble me. And quite frankly, our Founding fathers (who were influenced by Calvinist Protestantism) created a limited government precisely because our elected leaders are not exempt for criminal behavior before, during or after their time of “public service”.


133 posted on 09/23/2008 10:21:14 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Why settle for any of it? I don’t get it.


134 posted on 09/23/2008 11:36:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Beware the Bear.)
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To: SecAmndmt
I’ll take trooferism

Those who actually believe that our own government had anything to do with 9-11 should not be posting on message boards or worrying about electoral politics. They should be at war.

135 posted on 09/23/2008 11:38:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Beware the Bear.)
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To: ari-freedom
that’s easy to say but when california was burning, there were quite a few homes in Orange County with gun racks that burned down.

Makes no difference. Those guys know they're building and buying houses in areas very prone to wildfires from way before the time that they buy, so I don't buy the idea that they're due anything in the way of help from anyone other than their insurance company and their family and friends. Those are the people who usually help the most and do it best. The feds stink at it.

136 posted on 09/24/2008 2:08:48 AM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: MarcoPolo

I’m not a big fan of federal flood insurance and things of that nature. It was a big issue during the florida primary and mccain opposed it. He still managed to win.

What I’m talking about are the logistics of fighting a fire that transcends localities and the evacuation. For example, during a hurricane, people from Louisiana need to be bussed and sheltered in texas. That’s not an easy thing to pull off by the private sector.

Another example of federal intervention would be during some kind of highly contagious outbreak.


137 posted on 09/24/2008 2:21:48 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: SecAmndmt
And to think I used to love Ron Paul. *shakes head in disgust*
138 posted on 09/24/2008 2:24:55 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Night Conservative
"Ron Paul is more in-line with the party's base of small government than many of the jokers in the party ever will be. "

true.. but our constitution built a two party system. we have a two party system. pick one or the other. This isn't rocket science.

if you are in a state that can not win or can not lose. only then can i possibility see a protest vote. But that is all it is.

But personally I don’t know how you can protest with Palin on the ticket. We should be say YES! it is about time!

139 posted on 09/24/2008 2:33:55 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: EternalVigilance

“Those who actually believe that our own government had anything to do with 9-11 should not be posting on message boards or worrying about electoral politics. They should be at war.”

Try not to take my statements out of context, thanks.


140 posted on 09/24/2008 8:11:59 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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