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Metrolink 111 engineer led solitary life marred by tragedy
LA Times ^ | 9/17/08 | David Kelly and Sam Quinones

Posted on 09/17/2008 9:41:56 AM PDT by ZGuy

Those who knew Robert M. Sanchez say the Metrolink engineer led a solitary life in recent years and was intensely private, sharing little about a past that included tragedy and run-ins with the law.

Sanchez died Friday at the helm of a Metrolink train after apparently failing to stop at a signal near Chatsworth and colliding with an oncoming Union Pacific train. The crash, the worst in modern California history, killed 24 others and injured 135.

Investigators on Tuesday said they had ruled out train and track failure in the accident, and are close to ruling out signal failure. They said they are now focusing on Sanchez.

Sanchez was involved in a fatal crash with a pedestrian earlier this month.

In the years before his death, Sanchez led a nomadic life, with addresses in Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, Nebraska and California.

In 2000, he and Daniel Charles Burton, a waiter, bought a home in Crestline.

Burton moved to California from West Haven, Conn., his family said, seeking better weather and the freedom to be gay.

On Feb. 14, 2003, Burton hanged himself in the garage of their home.

"Rob, Happy Valentine's Day," read a note Burton left behind

The coroner's report showed that Burton tested positive for HIV.

Even before the suicide, Sanchez was having problems.

In 2002, he was arrested on suspicion of shoplifting. Sanchez pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge, paid a fine and served 90 days in jail.

At the time he said a lot of things were going on that caused him to make stupid mistakes.

He also had a federal tax lien filed against him in 1991 for $6,054 and a Riverside County tax lien for $1,205 filed in 2006.

Sanchez took diabetes medication.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: mentalhealth; metrolink; suicide; traincrash
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To: This Just In

Actually, the biggest victim in this tragedy is the aggrieved PR lady, who quit. She was the front page story on Monday with a huge picture....a lot of negative comments from victims families and acquaintances about that.


21 posted on 09/17/2008 10:49:08 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: ZGuy

Suicide; he was texting his last words...


22 posted on 09/17/2008 10:52:49 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Of course we’re just brainstorming here, but if he left Chatsworth and immediately fell unconscious he would have missed the final callout for sure. That would leave the Chatsworth departure callout as the other one. I can’t imagine that he could have engaged to leave Chatsworth without the callout due to a medical condition, but I’m just trying to play devil’s advocate here to see if options can be ruled in or out. In fact it was unclear from the news accounts if the final two callouts missed referred to stations or signals.


23 posted on 09/17/2008 10:53:30 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

The railroads called it “featherbedding” when the unions insisted on having a “fireman” in the cab. Eventually the unions caved in favor of higher salaries, and the firemen slowly disappeared. A shame, really, for a vehicle as potentially destructive as a train to only have one operator.


24 posted on 09/17/2008 10:55:50 AM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: mainestategop
Anybody want to guess that these drugs and whatever else he was taking had to do with this?

Diabetes medication can be oral or indictable depending on the severity of the condition. If you pancreas is still functioning at some level, oral meds usually suffice. If it has shut down you will need to go on insulin (indictable usually although there is some progress in making it into a spray that you inhale).

Your pancreas secretes insulin, which helps you to metabolize sugar, if your natural insulin production goes down it results in an increasing blood sugar level, which, in the extreme, can cause you to blackout. Having said that the effect of either form of medication is to stabilize your blood sugar levels within a specific (healthy) range by either stimulating your pancreas to produce more insulin (oral meds) or by replacing your natural insulin completely (indictable insulin).

Your blood sugar varies from day to day depending on diet, exercise, stress levels, and most importantly insulin level, this requires a diabetic to test his/her blood with a monitor (invasive procedure, which requires you to draw blood), usually twice daily. This provides you with information used to adjust the next dose so as to be neither over or under medicated. The process is rather like a duck flying backward in that you don't know where you're going, only where you've been. The process is not perfect and can result in applying the wrong dosage, which can be dangerous.

This is the important part:
If you allow your blood sugar to get either too high (hyperglycemic) or too low (hypoglycemic) the resulting effect is almost the same, drowsy, groggy, can’t mentally focus, vision problems, and if it's bad enough unconsciousness followed by comma.

Yes, the train engineer could have blacked out either because he overdosed, or because he didn't take his meds at all!

Regards,
GtG

25 posted on 09/17/2008 11:07:40 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: ZGuy
There is a difference between insulin and glucophage.

Too much or too little insulin( injection ) can cause blackout problems

Glucophage( pills ) does not affect one in any where near the same way


26 posted on 09/17/2008 11:12:22 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Old Professer
"Suicide; he was texting his last words..."

That would be my guess.

Prior to blowing through the red signal at more that 40mph, he passed at least two yellow signals telling him that he was going to have to stop. If he had seen the two prior restricting signals, he should have already had his hands on the break before he even saw the final red. It seems hard to believe that he missed all three.

Considering his past, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he decided to go out in a "blaze of glory."
27 posted on 09/17/2008 11:13:43 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray; XeniaSt; ZGuy
I should add to my previous that individuals who are either hyperglycemic or hypoglycemic are often taken to be drunk as the symptoms are very similar.

Regards,
GtG

28 posted on 09/17/2008 11:16:53 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: XeniaSt
Glucophage( pills ) does not affect one in any where near the same way

Half right, if you were to stop taking them, in time you would go hypoglycemic, no?

Regards,
GtG

29 posted on 09/17/2008 11:20:37 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: mainestategop
"Anybody want to guess that these drugs and whatever else he was taking had to do with this?"

I take diabetic medication every day, and it hasn't made me do stupid things. Obviously the guy's head was up his ass over personal issues. Unless he was doing drugs, drinking, or taking anti-depressants or sleeping pills, I doubt that on its own, the diabetic medication would have had any adverse effects on him.

30 posted on 09/17/2008 11:24:37 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Well I hear that alot of Metro rail and bus drivers in LA are drug fiends.


31 posted on 09/17/2008 11:28:05 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: indthkr

Hopefully they’ll release the pertinent autopsy and black box information as soon as they can and not make us wait for the final report.


32 posted on 09/17/2008 11:29:21 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
XS>Glucophage( pills ) does not affect one in any where near the same way

Half right, if you were to stop taking them, in time you would go hypoglycemic, no?

Regards, GtG

No it takes months of not taking pills for any change.

Unless you ingest large quantities of rapid carbohydrates


33 posted on 09/17/2008 11:33:57 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: mainestategop

Do you know if Metrolink has mandatory routine drug testing on their engineers?


34 posted on 09/17/2008 11:47:44 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: This Just In
"Metrolink was negligent."

Not Metrolink. They got him through a subcontractor, probably so they could simultaneously minimize pay, benefits, and liability.
35 posted on 09/17/2008 12:22:05 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: indthkr

Yes, Metrolink. He was an employee and receiving a pay check and benefits from Metro. Therefore, Metrolink is culpable.

The resignation of their PR person is further evidence that Metrolink has serious internal conflicts.


36 posted on 09/17/2008 12:30:36 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

If you stop taking your meds your blood sugar goes up, that makes you hyperglycemic. Those taking meds orally are still producing insulin and the meds help the body handle blood sugar.


37 posted on 09/17/2008 1:48:06 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: This Just In
"Yes, Metrolink. He was an employee and receiving a pay check and benefits from Metro. Therefore, Metrolink is culpable."

From the L.A. Times Article:

The NTSB said Tuesday that Sanchez was hired by Union Pacific in 1996. In 1998, he went to work for Amtrak, then he was hired by a contractor to work for Metrolink in 2005.
38 posted on 09/17/2008 1:55:47 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: jwparkerjr; XeniaSt
If you stop taking your meds your blood sugar goes up, that makes you hyperglycemic.

Mea Culpa, I got my hypo and hyper reversed, sometimes I post before proof reading!

Those taking meds orally are still producing insulin and the meds help the body handle blood sugar.

Yes they are producing insulin but not as much as needed to maintain the proper blood sugar levels. I they were able to maintain the proper balance through diet they would be "pre-diabetic" not "diabetic".

This I know because my wife is insulin dependent diabetic whereas I am pre-diabetic. I take Avanderal daily and my A1C level stays around 6.1-6.2. If I stop the meds it goes to 6.9 which is still borderline and not yet truly diabetic (A1C level of 7.0 and up by definition).

XeniaSt posted in #33 the following:
...it takes months of not taking pills for any change...Unless you ingest large quantities of rapid carbohydrates.

The first statement is somewhat misleading as an A1C blood test is a three month running average of glucose levels, so you will only see the results after testing. I suspect that changes start concurrent with dropping off the meds however. The second statement is a given, diet always plays a large part in controlling sugar levels.

Regards,
GtG

39 posted on 09/17/2008 3:28:21 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: ZGuy
The dead man switch is a foot pedal.

DEADMAN FOOT VALVE: A device, which will initiate a penalty brake application on a locomotive after a short time delay, if foot pedal is released on locomotive and brake cylinder pressure is not at least 25 psi.

40 posted on 09/17/2008 8:18:49 PM PDT by balk (thefightnetwork.com)
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