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Russia threatens to seize swathe of Arctic
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 9-17-08 | Miriam Elder

Posted on 09/17/2008 6:29:47 AM PDT by webschooner

President Dmitry Medvedev said that Russia should unilaterally claim part of the Arctic, stepping up the race for the disputed energy-rich region.

"We must finalise and adopt a federal law on the southern border of Russia's Arctic zone," Mr Medvedev told a meeting of the Security Council, in remarks carried by Interfax news agency.

"This is our responsibility, and simply our direct duty, to our descendents," he said. "We must surely, and for the long-term future, secure Russia's interests in the Arctic."

Global warming has stepped up the fight for the disputed Arctic, believed to be laden with vast reserves of oil and gas. Russia has pitted itself against Canada, Denmark, Norway and the United States to fight for a greater part of the region, arguing that most of it is Russian territory since an underwater ridge links Siberia to the North Pole's seabed.

Last August, a Russian mini-submarine carrying politicians and scientists plunged to the depths of the Arctic and claimed to plant a Russian flag to mark Moscow's stake in the territory.

Footage of the alleged planting was widely broadcast on Russian television – but later turned out to be images taken from the Hollywood blockbuster Titanic.

Under international law, each of the five countries that lay claim to the Arctic own a 320-kilometre zone that extends north from their shores. That arrangement is up for UN review in May next year.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; geopolitics; naturalgas; oil; russia
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To: webschooner; Zeddicus
Ok, I have a really stupid question. Was there ever a time in earth's history where the artic circle had a climate that would have sustained lush prehistoric animal or plant growth? How did all these "fossil fuels" get up there in the first place? Actually, it's a really good question, which I don't know the answer to. However, Greenland is called that because it once was, a 'green land', so perhaps it's possible the Arctic wasn't a popsicle at some time in history. But never fear, I suppose AlGore, who invented sliced bread, the printing press, the Internet, and all prolly (thinks he) knows.

Only marine life, which is rich and abundant today. The Artic Circle has no land mass.

21 posted on 09/17/2008 6:47:31 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: webschooner
The Russian military is training in the Artic

Russian army trains for Arctic resource war

Russia plans Arctic military build-up

Canada's response is to build two new military bases in the area.

Arctic military bases signal new Cold War

22 posted on 09/17/2008 6:54:44 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: webschooner

“Footage of the alleged planting was widely broadcast on Russian television – but later turned out to be images taken from the Hollywood blockbuster Titanic.”

LOL, sounds like they learned from the Iranians.


23 posted on 09/17/2008 6:57:32 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: cowboyway

There’s plenty of coal being mined in Alaska however.


24 posted on 09/17/2008 6:58:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: webschooner

Related article here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2082254/posts


25 posted on 09/17/2008 6:58:21 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: webschooner

26 posted on 09/17/2008 6:59:34 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Between the Lines


Canada’s response is to build two new military bases in the area.

Good for them.


27 posted on 09/17/2008 7:00:29 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Zeddicus
Yes, many dinosaur fossils have been found on the Alaskan North Slope. But most petroleum geologists and those in related fields that find oil believe that the primary organic source of oil is items like plankton and algae.

Dinosaurs on Alaska’s North Slope
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ak/aktest/culture_res/culture_pdfs.Par.48740.File.dat/alaska_dinosaurs.pdf

How Was Oil Formed?
http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/oil.html#Howformed

Keep in mind that the sedimentary rock most oil is found is from a time period older than the current location of our continents.

28 posted on 09/17/2008 7:05:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: headstamp 2

‘LOL, sounds like they learned from the Iranians.”

No, CBS.


29 posted on 09/17/2008 7:07:35 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: thackney
Keep in mind that the sedimentary rock most oil is found is from a time period older than the current location of our continents.

Ha ha ha. Yeah, that's why most of the oil wells aren't on land or a continental shelf.
30 posted on 09/17/2008 7:09:25 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Robe

Yeah sure — delivered by? No way that our spineless government will do anything about the situation.

We have already been invaded by people who have no intention of assimilating in our society but who are working hard in creating their own. And yet, we keep inviting them in.

The unity and integrity of our nation has been compromised and is of least concern to Washington.


31 posted on 09/17/2008 7:09:50 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: webschooner

Bush is asleep at the switch.

Why don’t we protest this?


32 posted on 09/17/2008 7:12:25 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to Impeach Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; keep your eye on these House hearings.)
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To: aruanan
For example:

Pennsylvanian - 290 to 323 million years ago

During the Pennsylvanian time period, Oklahoma continued to be located south of the equator but was drifting slowly north.

The sea level rose and fell several times during the Pennsylvanian. Time after time, large areas of Oklahoma were flooded by a shallow sea and then became dry land as sea level fell. Also, during this time, the Arbuckle Mountains, Wichita Mountains, Ouachita Mountains and Ozark Mountains formed.

Brachiopods, crinoids and corals were the most abundant invertebrate animals that lived in this sea. Clams and snails can also be found in some rocks but trilobites are rare. Fossils of land plants are common in coal deposits of the Pennsylvanian.

You can find fossils of Pennsylvanian age in limestone, shales and sandstones of the Arbuckle Mountains and in most of eastern Oklahoma.

http://www.snomnh.ou.edu/collections-research/cr-sub/invertpaleo/common_fossils_of_ok/Pennsylvanian1.htm

33 posted on 09/17/2008 7:16:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: webschooner

What do you think, Barack? What should we do?


34 posted on 09/17/2008 7:22:30 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: ETL
I remember that movie. Doug McClure rules!


35 posted on 09/17/2008 7:23:37 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: GMMAC; fanfan

(((.)))


36 posted on 09/17/2008 7:23:58 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Zeddicus

Sea Life.....


37 posted on 09/17/2008 7:25:54 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: webschooner
"This is our responsibility, and simply our direct duty, to our descendents,"

An odd choice of words considering their demographic implosion.

Russia owns huge chunks of Siberia that are devoid of Russians. Chinese are slowly creeping in and settling down there. Ought to make for a dandy war one of these days.

38 posted on 09/17/2008 7:33:11 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Squawk 8888; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; headsonpikes; ...
Thanks for the ping, Squawk.


39 posted on 09/17/2008 7:43:02 AM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Zeddicus
Ok, I have a really stupid question. Was there ever a time in earth's history where the artic circle had a climate that would have sustained lush prehistoric animal or plant growth? How did all these "fossil fuels" get up there in the first place?

Careful- that is an awfully inconvenient question for those who support an "Old earth/evolutionary concept"...

40 posted on 09/17/2008 7:48:36 AM PDT by TheBattman (A vote for the "lesser evil" is still a vote for evil!)
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