Posted on 09/14/2008 2:30:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Russian jet crash kills all 88 on board
Photo: AFP
PERM, Russia (AFP) - An Aeroflot Boeing-737 jet crashed near a Ural mountains city Sunday killing all 88 passengers and crew on board, after reportedly catching fire in the sky, the airline said.
There were 21 foreigners and seven children on the jet which came down as it prepared to land in Perm on a flight from Moscow. The wreckage cut off the Trans-Siberian railway.
"It was burning while still in the sky and it looked like a falling comet," one female witness told Russia's Vesti-24 television.
The jet narrowly missed a main residential area as it fell shortly after 5:00 am (2300 GMT Saturday).
Aeroflot confirmed there were no survivors and said the dead included nine people from Azerbaijan, five from Ukraine and one each from France, Germany, Italy, Latvia, Switzerland, and Turkey.
One passenger was also said to be American but US officials were reportedly checking that information.
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Another attempt by you to apply puddle-depth knowledge and generalizations rather than discuss the facts of the incident. Do you deny that the vertical stabilizer, in it’s entirety, broke from the aircraft? If so, did the conspirators somehow plant an identical one in Jamaica Bay and rush to the crash site to remove evidence of the one on the plane? You know the stabilizer I’m talking about, the one filmed and photographed being lifted from Jamaica Bay after the crash?
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20011130X02321&key=1
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:
The in-flight separation of the vertical stabilizer as a result of the loads beyond ultimate design that were created by the first officer's unnecessary and excessive rudder pedal inputs. Contributing to these rudder pedal inputs were characteristics of the Airbus A300-600 rudder system design and elements of the American Airlines Advanced Aircraft Maneuvering Program.
Seems to me that losing a rudder would affect yaw stability, and too much yaw can induce roll. Then there’s the issue of what else was affected by the rudder being ripped from the aircraft. Fly by wire, sensors and software could have all dealt with the sudden loss in unexpected ways which would have given the guy on the other end of the wire (pilot) a hell of a hard time, and not a lot of time (and sky) to deal with it.
Sorry, you’re correct. When I first posted I was picturing the entire vertical stabilizer missing, and not just the rudder.
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Well actually I was.
My use of the word “rudder” was not precise. I do think of the vertical tail fin as the “rudder” which is not technically correct. I knew the entire vertical tail fin snapped off and thought you did too as that was a well known detail of flight 587 which is what we were discussing.
” By falsely attributing this incident to terrorism in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you actually reinforce the outrageous claims of others.”
Show me where in any of my posts that I attributed this crash to terrorism! Show me and the rest of FR! You are so full of yourself that you jump to conclusions at the drop of a hat. SHOW ME!
Your original posts siad nothing about the vertical stabilizer: You only mentioned the rudder. You never mentioned the vertical stabilizer until others did. I was merely responding to your comment about the rudder, and nothing more. You say you’re an electrical engineer. Perhaps you should stick with that and stay away from aerodynamics.
I thought you were the poster DB. Thus, forget my comment about being an electrical engineer and your previous post being only about the rudder. Other than that, I stand by the rest of my post. Again, I insist you show me where I said that crash was the result of terrorism.
What is your f***ing problem?
Bump.
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