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Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV
NOAA/NHC ^ | 14 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: txflake
Editorial: Media blackout is bone-headed

By Dolph Tillotson
The Daily News
Published September 15, 2008


The city of Galveston made its first serious misstep in handling the Hurricane Ike crisis, but it’s a big enough mistake that it almost outweighs the many good things city leaders have done.

The misstep was clamping down on the flow of information out of Galveston Island. Now, by order of Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas, the only city officials who may speak to the media are Thomas herself and City Manager Steve LeBlanc.

So, reporters who had been getting solid information from the police and firemen, from the police chief and fire chief and other city department heads no longer may do so.

Meanwhile, if Monday is any indication, Mayor Thomas and LeBlanc plan press conferences that are few in number, brief in duration and at which they answer few questions. Monday’s noon press conference lasted about half an hour, and the pair answered only five questions.

Editorial: Media blackout is bone-headed
2,821 posted on 09/15/2008 4:48:01 PM PDT by LA Woman3 (Sarahcuda!!)
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To: SE Mom

http://abcotv.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/15/ike_satellite_gilchrist.jpg


2,822 posted on 09/15/2008 4:48:28 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: Tail Gunner John

You can use your FEMA card at the track, in the slot machines at the casino, at the Guicci Store, at the gentlemen’s clubs, at the plastic surgeon, at the liquor store and at Neiman’s. Kroger and Home Depot do not accept them. :-) Enjoy!!!


2,823 posted on 09/15/2008 4:52:55 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: RikaStrom

LOl!


2,824 posted on 09/15/2008 4:54:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: texgal

Where are they?


2,825 posted on 09/15/2008 4:58:29 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Please forgive typos, freepin from my cell phone.)
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To: CindyDawg

The problem with Crystal Beach/Gilchrist/High Island is that the ferry was shut down Friday and the only way in/out was the coastal highway. It’s a very narrow two lane road that is often washed away in hurricanes. From Port Bolivar to High Island (where the road turns north to go to Winnie) is about 25-30 miles. Between Gilchrist and High Island the highway is very close to the beach. If the water was already coming up, that was the only escape route and the road may have already been impassable. There would be no way to get out from the area because the surge came in a lot earlier than the hurricane.

With currents that strong, I don’t think many can wade through 30 miles.

Those people are private people and the media is not to be trusted :-)


2,826 posted on 09/15/2008 5:04:33 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: 1066AD

I agree...I was just posting what someone else placed on a forum...don’t know if its fact or fiction;)


2,827 posted on 09/15/2008 5:05:05 PM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: All
Mobile morgue en route to Galveston as search continues
2,828 posted on 09/15/2008 5:08:19 PM PDT by LA Woman3 (Sarahcuda!!)
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To: texasredtop

Makes me so mad. The NG nor FEMA should be givin out anything within 20 miles of a store carrying it. Did those look like Deer Park folks or typical moochers from other areas like Pasadena?


2,829 posted on 09/15/2008 5:10:36 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Please forgive typos, freepin from my cell phone.)
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To: seeker41

While it may turn out to be true, I don’t buy it one little bit. You’d be surprised some of the cuckoos that post BS to stir everyone up. Sickos. How does someone find 4000 bodies? It doesn’t add up. Our friends that live on the island are returning from SATX tomorrow. Their neighbors are home and said their place is okay with just some superficial damage.


2,830 posted on 09/15/2008 5:11:26 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: stlnative

Great info thanks!


2,831 posted on 09/15/2008 5:17:11 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Please forgive typos, freepin from my cell phone.)
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To: texasredtop
Private people are usually not whiners and tend to be resourceful. I'm still hoping and praying until we know otherwise.
2,832 posted on 09/15/2008 5:22:09 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: texasredtop

You wouldn’t think someone trying to get out would be counting bodies. I’m not saying she didn’t see any but I’m taking the 4K as doubtful.


2,833 posted on 09/15/2008 5:24:22 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: DrewsMum

I’m thinking a little of everything, there were several stations all over town. Most were new - 1 year old vehicles lined up down Center waiting. We just laughed and wondered how much gas they used sitting their idling for well over an hour (maybe two more more hours) to get a free bag of ice and a free gallon of water. Sometimes people are so stupid when they hear “FREE”.

Glad to hear you got stocked up at the store and are making the last leg of your journey home. Please let me know how you find your home. I’ll be logging off soon as I have other things I need to tend to and this gets too addictive. I also have an early doctor’s appt but will check in around 10:00 or so. I’ll say a prayer for you tonight and hope you have even less damage than I did.


2,834 posted on 09/15/2008 5:26:28 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: CindyDawg

It’s too far fetched. If she said she saw 200, well, maybe but 4000? Nope, I don’t buy it. That would be just in the area she was in too, not the entire island and the Bolivar to High Island area. I doubt that the Bolivar to High Island area has much more than that in population even in the summer months. Even when 3000+ people died in the WTC, did any one person see that many?


2,835 posted on 09/15/2008 5:29:38 PM PDT by texasredtop
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To: texasredtop

If one accepts the posit that 85% of the people who didn’t evacuate had cell phones, telecoms could count the number of accounts with no recent activity or GPS signal - underwater or otherwise not working.


2,836 posted on 09/15/2008 5:40:01 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: GovernmentShrinker; jeffers
That first picture has just GOT to be a Photoshop hoax. On the tiny chance that it’s not, the builder should get some sort of solid third party verification and feature it in a surefire competition-eliminating ad campaign.

I don't think it's a Photoshop hoax, GovernmentShrinker. If you take a look at this photo that jeffers posted (of a satellite image of what's left of the island) in #2710 you will see that house. Click on that image to zoom it way up; the house is near the left of the image, on the gulf-side, by the wide area of erosion (landmark for that "cut" is the light streak going down the water to the bottom of the image). It is the house. In-freaking-credible!

2,837 posted on 09/15/2008 5:41:49 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican
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Can anyone explain to me why they put this hump in the highway like this? (I have never been to the area so from this picture view it really looks odd)

http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/ike_09_15/ike7.jpg


2,838 posted on 09/15/2008 5:48:23 PM PDT by stlnative (HurraMcCain Palin will continue to build strength as it travels across the USA over the next 60 days)
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To: Romulus

Please stop acting like an argumentative and ignorant boob. If you had taken the initiative to read the comment in the prior post, you would have understood that magic word—the context. Enough already.


2,839 posted on 09/15/2008 5:51:22 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: seeker41

seeker41 wrote:
My friend got off the island with pictures today and they are sick. Bodies everywhere! The
numbers on the island are 4000+. Where is the national media....where is the outcry. By this time
in Katrina there were telethons...and here nothing. The pictures have been sent to Nytimes, cnn,
etc and nobody has posted about them. Mark my words tomorrow there will be headlines, and if
not in the papers than in the blogs because this is a higher death count than Katrina and 9/11
combined. This is sick...and it is true. On the island they are telling them not to talk so as to give
them time to notfy the families..but a national spotlight is needed. This is bigger then the
DOWJones and wall street. This is huge.

This was just posted here http://www.khou.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27523&start=30

Have no idea if true

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Take that with a MAJOR grain of salt.

At the same time, don’t ignore it either.

Without confirmation, it is either a FALSE RUMOR, or else a TRUE FACT NOT CONFIRMED.

Until we know, it’s worth about as much as the stories of post Katrina cannabalism.

We don’t need any more of that.

Perusing aerial imagery grids of Galveston and Bolivar Peninsula, I’d say Galveston, even the west end, got off easy. Yeah, there’s damage, but it’s more like one home in ten missing big pieces, others apparantly intact, overall, with most of those close to the beach.

On Bolivar, it’s a LOT worse. I’d be a LOT more inclined to buy “thousands dead’ on Bolivar than Galveston, based on post storm imagery, which I consider to be hard data.


2,840 posted on 09/15/2008 5:53:01 PM PDT by jeffers
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