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To: nmh; EternalVigilance; betty boop

One step at a time.

The first thing we need to do is reverse Roe v. Wade. That was the decision that led to tens of millions of abortions. It was not only morally wrong from a Christian perspective, or even a human perspective. It was also an act of judicial tyranny that was basically unconstitutional.

Then we are back to the states. MOST states will be opposed to abortion on demand. A few—New York, California—may go the other way. Then we can fight the good fight on the state level.

You can also argue that the real meaning of the word “person” in the Constitution means that abortion is just plain unconstitutional. But first we need to reverse Roe, then we can pursue the fight further.

We also need to start appointing decent judges. That is only going to happen under a Republican administration led by people like George W. Bush or Sarah Palin—or, we can hope, John McCain.

It is a multi-pronged problem, and we should not neglect any avenues that will lead to better results in the future.


203 posted on 09/13/2008 2:45:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I have no more patience for murdering babies.

I want abortion banned at the FEDERAL LEVEL.

Stack the U.S.S.C. right. retry Roe/Wade and make it illegal throughout the U.S.. You will never get all the states to go along with banning abortion at the State level and it would take forever to try.

204 posted on 09/13/2008 2:49:42 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cicero; nmh; EternalVigilance; betty boop; joanie-f; Alamo-Girl
One step at a time.... The first thing we need to do is reverse Roe v. Wade.... Then we can fight the good fight on the state level.... It is a multi-pronged problem, and we should not neglect any avenues that will lead to better results in the future.

Sounds like a workable plan to me Cicero!

But it seems to assume that Obama will not be the next president of the United States, with a compliant (Democrat) Congress at his beck and call. Just think about the sort of federal judges he would appoint (and the Senate confirm), including to the highest Court in the land — which is the only Court that can overturn Roe v. Wade. 'Nuff said.

Wake up America!!! Then hold your nose if you have to; but support McCain/Palin on Nov. 4th!

Thank you so much for writing!

212 posted on 09/13/2008 3:29:31 PM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: Cicero

The first thing you MUST do is establish the principles. Then, no matter the political lay of the land, you cannot sacrifice those principles.

Otherwise, you end up where we are now. Every time.

The false idea that this is a problem only of the courts has run its inevitable course. We will not stop abortion in America until every single officer of the United States is held to the standard of their sworn oath to the Constitution, which clearly protects innocent human life.

But again, no state or individual has a right to alienate what is unalienable.


217 posted on 09/13/2008 3:38:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: Cicero; nmh; EternalVigilance; betty boop
The first thing we need to do is reverse Roe v. Wade. [...] an act of judicial tyranny that was basically unconstitutional.

The only reason that RvW still stands is that Congress wants it to stand. Congressional statesmen with an eye toward their duty, by the mere offense to the power of their office, would have knocked down that judicial tyranny the very year it was birthed. It is by their consent that Roe v Wade stands to defy them, Democrat and Republican alike.

Then we are back to the states. MOST states will be opposed to abortion on demand. A few—New York, California—may go the other way. Then we can fight the good fight on the state level.

I do not agree with you. Giving the power of Life to the states is every bit as unconstitutional as RvW is, and is a terrific foot in the door for euthanasia, and ever other sort of bastardization of that sort, which the court will then nationalize, and then here we go again.

One cannot ignore the plain words of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution, which specifically take Life beyond the reach of ALL branches of government, and lay it only in the hands of the Creator. Until that (Conservative) ideal is fully recognized and protected, there will be no end to the perversions that will occur, with 50 different states to use as legal testbeds.

It is not a matter for the federalists to resolve. It is beyond their right to claim. It is an unalienable right, one upon which our federal government is established, as a protector thereof, and without which, our sovereign government has no business to conduct, or moral right to stand.

257 posted on 09/14/2008 12:25:17 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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