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Democrat October Surprise? Joe Biden Steps Down, Hillary Clinton To Rescue
ThePostChronicle ^ | Sep 11, 2008 | Marc Centanni

Posted on 09/11/2008 7:40:20 PM PDT by Delacon

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To: windsorknot

“I agree. It would be seen for what it is: a desperate political ploy; and it would demonstrate Obama’s poor judgement in choosing Biden for the VP slot.”

If you know that you are going to lose the game, your last move is to throw a “Hail Mary”. Or in this case, a “Hail Hillary”.


201 posted on 09/12/2008 5:03:24 AM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon; All
Yeah, I know this is kinda different

It's VERY different.

For one thing, Obama and Biden aren't on any ballots - not really. There are 538 US citizen Democrats who are running for the position of Elector for President and Vice President of the United States.

Once they are elected, they can vote for anyone they wish - or anyone they are told to vote for. (Yes, I know about "faithless elector" laws, but they are surely unconstitutional).

In fact, if the person who "wins" the election in November dies before the Electoral College meets in December, the electors can do whatever they damn well please. If the President-elect dies after the Electoral College votes (and, in fact, there IS no President-elect before that), then the Vice President-elect becomes President on January 20 per Amendment XX.

The Clintons have enormous room for maneuver here, without involving the courts or state election laws AT ALL.

202 posted on 09/12/2008 5:05:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: Delacon

As Rudy said, Biden better get it in writing.


203 posted on 09/12/2008 5:10:43 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: Delacon

Replacing Biden with Shrillary would be a media sensation, and would cause even more Europeans to favor Obama.

But we knuckle-dragging middle Americans would see through such a crass act and Obama would even more look like an indecisive wuss.

He would still lose. Because Palin is authentic and Shrillary is, well shrill. Palin is middle America and Shrillary is fake. Palin is a real woman and likes men; as for Shrillary ... ‘nuff said.


204 posted on 09/12/2008 5:13:07 AM PDT by tom h
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To: profit_guy
because blacks will FREAK OUT and many won’t vote, saying whitey stole it away from him, and he is now slave to master hillary

That's why they will do it between November 5 and December 8.

Obama missed his last chance to "choose life" - his own - when he dissed Hillary over the VP selection process.

A leopard can't change its spots, and neither can the Clintons.

205 posted on 09/12/2008 5:13:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: Doctor DNA

My advice to you...

Stop watching “24”!


206 posted on 09/12/2008 5:29:56 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: Delacon

Nope. If they’re considering it, it will be precious time wasted.

Too many people have a hand in this decision.
Sweet Caroline was involved, and you don’t throw a Kennedy under the bus. A bridge, yes, but not a bus.

Screamin’ Dean has a say, and Dems better hope he doesn’t say anything...ever...again.

I’m guessing Michelle wants to be queen, tough to do that when all eyes are on Hillary!

Nope. They will be down in the polls with a month to go.
Their hail mary is the first POTUS debate. Their October surprise is happening right now. Obama has one month to eliminate all ahh’s, ummm’s, errr’s, from his speech habit, or it’s, um, ah, er, over.


207 posted on 09/12/2008 5:39:08 AM PDT by Gunflint
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To: Delacon

Isn’t it too late for his son to get on the ballot? Well, legally...


208 posted on 09/12/2008 5:55:27 AM PDT by Styria
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To: El Sordo
I am happy to discuss it at length and without rancor. This is a subject which has fascinated me since its occurrence. When I saw Rudy kill Oswald I immediately knew something was very wrong with the Official explanation. That has only been confirmed with the passage of time and with all the formerly classified information being released and the statements of people who were in a position to know such as Ragano who kept silent as long as Santo Traficante was alive. His death removed the lawyer/client privilege.
209 posted on 09/12/2008 10:03:49 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Clemenza

On a different subject, Do you have any contacts at the UofC who may have taken Zero’s classes or have any information about his teaching there?


210 posted on 09/12/2008 10:06:26 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Delacon

I find it really hard to picture HRC accepting that role. How demeaning would it be for her to be “only” the vice-president? She would have to suffer through all the attention being paid to the president and first lady while she has to quietly sit in the background. I just can’t picture her wanting to be in that position. VP’s just don’t get the kind of attention she craves.


211 posted on 09/12/2008 10:11:56 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Delacon

Too late, won’t work, they’ve done seen Sarah.


212 posted on 09/12/2008 10:17:40 AM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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To: madison10

I thought he was “earning” his executive experience by running his campaign. Obviously, if he changes his mind regarding his “hand picked man”, he leaves himself exceptionally vulnerable to criticism. But don’t kid yourself... these slimeballs will do anything to win. McCain camp needs to consider this option and be prepared to counter.


213 posted on 09/12/2008 10:21:03 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: hinckley buzzard

My bet is Hillary already turned him down.


214 posted on 09/12/2008 11:44:03 AM PDT by naturalized
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To: rodeo-mamma
“she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me.”

What he's not saying is, "But I got picked anyway, you (fill in the blank) Hillary!"

215 posted on 09/12/2008 3:24:57 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Stand up and pray up!)
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To: sassbox
I agree with you about Biden. I hate his politics, but there is something likeable about him

Exactly. He's an ass but he has that Steve Martin thing going.

216 posted on 09/12/2008 4:40:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Running On Empty
Who thinks Obama will even get a second term-—in the event he is actually elected?

I don’t think there would be a second term for BHO.

Hillary’s chances may actually be only 4 years away.

If Obama wins, he will usher in a stronger Dimacrat Majority which will bring back "The Fairness Doctrine" to silence Conservative dissent and assure their Socialist ascendancy.

217 posted on 09/12/2008 8:50:04 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: arrogantsob
Virtually every claim about the case is invalid. Particularly laughable is the claim that LHO, a poor shot, could carry a rifle back and forth across Texas and La. reassemble it and shoot JFK with no practice no sighting in the sights. Expert snipers have said they could not duplicate the shooting and it has not been done even with stationary targets.

So much Barbara Streisand! I might have been willing to be at least skeptical about what you posted but for one thing.

When I visited Dealy plaza, I was shocked at how small and closed in every thing is there! I always imagined a vast expanse of space but it seemed to me that anyone could reach out with a flyswatter from the Texas School Book Depository's sixth floor window and slap anyone on Elm Street. Oswald's shot was much easier than most have reported through the years.

The Army Ordinance Laboratory technicians were afraid to even fire it for fear it would blow up in their faces. The sights were so misaligned the Lab had to physically shim it up to get any accuracy from the notoriously inaccurate gun. And the Magik Bullet is beyond laughable getting into the Surreal. It is something only the media could swallow. And that is exactly who was pushing Posner as hard has it could.

As for the sights being so misaligned, every person's eyesight is different. Misaligned sights for you may be in perfect adjustment for me or even for Lee Harvey Oswald. As for Oswald being a poor shot, extensive practice can make the poorest shooter a master marksman. With a little practice an individual can compensate for a mis-mounted scope.

Occam's Razor must be applied. Oswald was a crazy nut as evidenced by his whole life up to his infamous deed. He alone assassinated President Kennedy and was in turn assassinated by Jack Ruby. Now put it to bed, Johnson is dead.

218 posted on 09/12/2008 10:52:29 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Fred

Sen Biden,the gift that keeps on giving.


219 posted on 09/14/2008 10:49:47 PM PDT by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: higgmeister

Your or my impression of the difficulty of the shot is irrelevant. That of top snipers is very relevant and that is what THEY say. And it is a fact that the shooting has NOT been duplicated though many have tried to do so.

The point is that Oswald did NOT have extensive practice. There are no reports of him practicing at all though there are reports of someone claiming to be him shooting at another shooter’s target at a gun range. This occurred when the real LHO was at work.

Applying any logic to this not to mention Occum’s razor makes it impossible to believe the collection of illogic supporting the Lone Assassin Theory. Particularly since LHO was on record as an admirer of JFK and was perfectly competent to understand LBJ would take over with most policies remaining the same. The few clips of him show him to be well-spoken and apparently intelligent. And there is no doubt that he was intelligent enough to learn Russian well enough that native born Soviets did not know he was foreign.

LHO’s life seems to be an episode from his favorite tv show as a kid, I Led Three Lives, which was about a double agent infiltrating Communist front groups. Or was he a part of the real US program to send false defectors to the USSR? Nothing with Oswald is as it seems.


220 posted on 09/15/2008 7:05:36 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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