Democrat October Surprise? Joe Biden Steps Down, Hillary Clinton To Rescue

ThePostChronicle ^ | Sep 11, 2008 | Marc Centanni

[Delacon]

An October surprise might be brewing. And not just your ordinary run-of-the-mill type of surprise, but a blockbuster one of epic proportions. Hillary Clinton supporters, your dream may not be dead yet.

In one of the more memorable moments in the Democratic presidential primaries came last year when debate moderator NBC anchorman Brian Williams asked Sen. Joe Biden about his reputation for talking too much.

Williams asked Biden, who was described by the Los Angeles Times as a "gaffe machine," if he could reassure voters that he would have enough verbal discipline needed for the world stage.

"Yes," Biden replied with a grin and a twinkle in his eyes, CNN Reports.

The third Senator from Pennsylvania has made two gaffes in the past week and one of them might actually have a little hidden meaning.

The other day when he stopped by Columbia, MO. The Senator was speaking before a large crowd when he decided to give special recognition to State Senator Chuck Graham, a Columbia Democrat.

"Chuck, stand up, let the people see you," Biden shouted.

However, Biden did not realize that Graham is confined to a wheelchair.

"Oh, God love you. What am I talking about? I'll tell you what, you're making everybody else stand up, old pal. I'll tell you what, everybody else stand up for Chuck. Stand up for Chuck!" Biden said.

Then yesterday, Biden attracted attention for telling a crowd in New Hampshire that Sen. Hillary Clinton "might have been a better pick" as Obama's running mate.

"Make no mistake about this," Biden said. "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let's get that straight. She's a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she's easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me."

Wow. Is Biden about to take a dive?

World Net Daily writes: 'Intrade is currently predicting a 7.9 percent chance Biden will be dropped. Until the election is over, the Biden trading category will fluctuate in value between 0 and 100 like a stock reacting to daily news. The price has been steadily increasing since yesterday when Biden said Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., could have been a better candidate for Obama's running mate.'

WND also has the video.

On Fox's "Hannity & Colmes" last night, Sean Hannity asked Gov. Ed Rendell, D-Pa., "Will they replace Biden with Hillary?"

Rendell replied, "No, absolutely not. Joe Biden is here to stay. Next vice president of the United States."

The problem is how to extract Biden from the ticket and replace him with Hillary without making look obvious. However such a move might be perceived as yet again another indicator that Obama cannot make up his mind on anything.

The only way to make it happen is for Biden to save face. Call me cynical but I see a "personal reason" on the horizon for Joe Biden. And what will they offer him to make it an attractive option?

Barack Obama and former President Bill Clinton had a two hour meeting today. The lunch meeting at was at Clinton's office in New York City and was the first between them since the presidential primary campaign that caused a rift between the two Democrats.

The beginning of the meeting was open to reporters and was your usual political fare. Clinton predicted Obama will win the White House "pretty handily."

The AP reports that the pair also talked behind closed doors later. A joint statement says the former president and the Democratic nominee discussed the campaign briefly, but mostly talked about how the world has changed since 9/11. How much you want to bet that the conversation also included, "If I pick your wife will you not F@!k with me?"

You see, word out is that the reason Obama did not pick Hillary the first time is because he did not want a presidency with three heads running the White House. The problem is that of governance. However if you do not win, as FOX commentator Charles Krauthammer puts it, "you cannot govern."

Biden was a safe pick before the phenom known as Sarah Palin. Now it's a case of Obama's reptile dysfunction versus McCain political Viagra.

Waht to do, what to do..

[Doctor DNA]

A Opera: The Clintonian Brief (fiction)

Biden fakes a stroke - must because he is old - Media worry a lot about McCain's age. A lot of Media attention to guys, exactly McCain age, overcrowing the emergency rooms, etc.

Biden fakes a comma - unresponsive in hospital - pity pity, Dear Joe cant run now! What to do?

Hillary at his bedside: “Don't worry Dear Friend Joe, I'll run for you! She steps in for the good of the party... Media cheer her qualities! She'll speak for real hero Biden! - what a trooper!

SuperStars Barry & Hillary fight hillbilly Palin together - the Pumas return to the collective. Its looking good again in the Dem Control Room - Donations roll in again.

With a quarter billion, BO and HRC together, they ramp up their exposure in key states. Enough to tip the election

Barry wins - now has a wonderful voter'honeymoon’. Biden recovers enough to retire to light duties (but rewarding somehow)

Hillary gets to work - the fixers target the factions. Key agents move into position. Alibis ready!

Saint Barry gets taken out! A Disaster! Was it an accident/a hit/suicide/Russians/etc? Big emotions shown all round.

But don't worry Hillary will step back in and lead until the next election. She will honor the Barry with platitudes, fireworks and public works in His name. Even statues.

What an ‘Honorable’ person! The Media swoons.

Barry supporters now flock now to Hillary the successor! She is in control now of all the factions. In good shape for the next election.

Devious Opera! I hope it doesn't happen! But because it is plausible....... urk!

[Maximum Leader]

Bingo.

The only way that Biden is going to drop out as VP is if he’s replaced by Obama (who moves down to make room for Hillary). But that’s not going to happen either, it would make the Dems look like idiots to change change horses in midstream.

The root cause of Obama’s Veep problem is that Johnny Edwards can’t keep his zipper up. From what I’ve heard, Obama had already picked Edwards to be VP nominee (and was just waiting till the convention to announce it). But once the Enquirer busted Edwards at that hotel with his baby mama, Obama had to scramble for another nominee.

[CaliforniaCon]

RE: “That’s why it will be a “ medical reason “ . Totally justifiable with the public and old Biden has that aneurysm issue .They can pull it off , have no doubt .”

They may be able to rid themselves of Biden citing medical reasons, but even the dummest of the Dims should see through it. Will they CARE is a bigger issue.

[fortheDeclaration]

And that is only if she can convince a surgeon to stretch her face one more time.

LOL!

[arrogantsob]

Posner’s book has been shot full of so many holds it is completely discredted. I read it and even own a copy. There is nothing in the Lone Assassin theory which holds water. In particular, there is no motive since Oswald is on record of having been an admirer of JFK.

Jack Rudy is the clearest evidence that the Official Explanation is a joke. He had been involved in Mafia/CIA activities in Cuba from before Castro took power. None of the classified info from CIA/FBI files was available to the Warren Commission. It was kept from them because of a fear that it would show a conspiracy which could have been blamed on Cuba or the USSR.

Mafia political hits were set up with a “patsy” available to take the blame, a dead patsy. Guatamala in the mid 50s was the prototype political hit. Oswald was manipulated by a Carlos Marcello operative, Guy Banister, while in New Orleans to bring him to the attention of the media as “communist”. Oswald’s uncle was a bookmaker for the Marcello ring.

Traficante’s lawyer, Rugano, has stated that T confessed that he was part of a plot to kill JFK. Traficante had been run out of the country to avoid the Senate Committee JFK and RFK were running against the mafia, Marcello had been literally kidnapped and thrown into the jungles of Guatamala and Hoffa was RFK’s favorite whipping boy. They all were reported by informants as threatening JFK.

Jack Rudy was part of Marcello’s outfit through Joe Civello in Dallas. The idea that he shot Oswald for any love of JFK or concern for Jackie is as laughable as it gets.

The Kennedy’s had the mob on the run everywhere in the country. It had never been attacked like that. Bobby knew immediately that the mob had done it and told his associates just that.

All the “evidence” proving Oswald the lone killer is so inconsistent and shoddy it would never hold up to examination. Virtually every claim about the case is invalid. Particularly laughable is the claim that LHO, a poor shot, could carry a rifle back and forth across Texas and La. reassemble it and shoot JFK with no practice no sighting in the sights. Expert snipers have said they could not duplicate the shooting and it has not been done even with stationary targets.

The Army Ordinance Laboratory technicians were afraid to even fire it for fear it would blow up in their faces. The sights were so misaligned the Lab had to physically shim it up to get any accuracy from the notoriously inaccurate gun. And the Magik Bullet is beyond laughable getting into the Surreal. It is something only the media could swallow. And that is exactly who was pushing Posner as hard has it could.

And the claim about an inability to accept that a loser could kill the magnificent JFK is just another misdirection.
Anyone who knows any American history can tell you that it was just such a character who shot at Andrew Jackson; killed
Garfield; killed McKinley; shot at Teddy; shot at Ford; wounded Reagan; killed the Mayor of Chicago, Carter Harrison. It is a claim which answers nothing since it is easy to believe or even KNOW about just that kind of thing happening. It did not happen here.

[fortheDeclaration]

The only option the Clinton machine has left is to maneuver Hillary into the top spot.

Will Hillaryphobes face that the fact that she is DONE

The day after McCain wins the election we are going to have a hundred threads on the Hillary threat in 2012...!

[arrogantsob]

Nothing you posted is implausible. But the Clinton crime family has little or no power over the Secret Service which would give trouble to any of their Chinese assassins Charlie Tree probably has ready to go when the Don orders one.

Only a Death can win this for them.

[El Sordo]

It appears we will just have to disagree on this matter.

[Running On Empty]

Who thinks Obama will even get a second term-—in the event he is actually elected?

I don’t think there would be a second term for BHO.

Hillary’s chances may actually be only 4 years away.

[screaming eagle2]

I don’t think that would matter to him

[Fred]

Biden says Clinton would have been a better VP....youtube video

[AmericaUnited]

You know, Biden handled the Chuck incident with class. As much as I hate Biden's politics, he'd probably be fun to hang out and have a beer with.

I have to agree. He did offer up a "Boy, what a dumbass I was" type response.

[Delacon]

“Give credit where it is due, that is from The Anchoress.”

It was a mistake. I always try to give credit. In my defence, if you click on the title of that blog post, it takes you to the Anchoress.

[Delacon]

“I will be disappointed if the McCain/Palin campaign doesn’t head this off proactively. Rudy Guiliani’s comment isn’t enough groundwork...they need to start making more jokes/comments/etc about it. .”

Thats what I was hoping to help make come about by posting this article. We HAVE to get out in front of this, just in case. Every talking head should be made to cover the possibility that Biden might step down and that it would be cravinly done to increase Obama’s electability and NOT because of whatever personal reason Biden may think up.

[Non-Sequitur]

Look for Biden to mysteriously disappear from the campaign trail due to some fabricated medical reason within the next few weeks.

Not a chance.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Fatal duck feeding accident in Ft. Marcey Park...

[Delacon]

“The problem is this,there are thousands and thousands of people, maybe millions that dont have cable TV, and we all know that ABC, CBS, NBC will show it as an awful turn of fate, and wont know any better!! The word needs to get out, that this may be coming!! The “Chosen One” knows he is failing, and its up to us to get it out that this may be coming!!”

What I said. Loads of freepers on this thread have scoffed at the idea. I say to them that if it does happen, no matter how remote the possibility it seems now, won’t they look stupid if it happens and we did nothing to get out in front of this before. The flip side is that if we DO get out in front of this and Biden stays in, no harm no foul. In fact, making a ruckus about the possibility only highlights the failings of the Obama campaign.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

No one here is thinking outside the box.

Fatal duck feeding accident - Ft. Marcy Park.

[Delacon]

“Biden’s problem is that there is no excuse that would get him off the VP ticket now that would justify him still running for Senate in Delaware this cycle.”

I thought of that too. You might be right, but you need to take into consideration that his son Beau would probably take his place in the Senate. Biden wouldn’t exactly be ejected from the halls of power. Just there by proxy.

[alancarp]

Are you old enought to remember Senator Eagleton...

Uh... almost, but not quite. But that's a real good way to start a list! But I've been thinking overnight about a few reasons BHO should not even consider dumping Biden for medical reasons:

1. Compared to Dick Cheney, Joe Biden's medical history is about as serious as a sunburn.

2. There's this eligibility lawsuit still out there in Philadelphia.... filed by a Democrat supporter of The Hill.... and mysterious documents have a magical way of appearing or disappearing in the hands of the Clintons....

3. Let's see: putting Hillary one step from the Oval Office makes me think of one word that Obama really oughta consider soberly: "Arkancide."