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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; tpanther

Lawsuits may be an expression of some parents wishes, but what gives them the right to force that on all the other hundreds of parents? So the lawsuits filed back are the expression of other parents wishes. So why are they condemned for fighting back when the parents who file the lawsuits against creation are lauded? If parents have the right to file lawsuits for evo only, then parents have the right to file lawsuits to have both.

Why didn’t they start their own private evo only school? Why didn’t they push for the option of opting out when creation or ID was addressed in the classroom, just like with health classes when the sex ed section comes up. That would have been a much more reasonable alternative.

But they’re not interested in reasonable. They want control otherwise they would not have filed lawsuits to FORCE the majority to capitulate to their selfish demands.

How is it hijacking the system to allow more than one point of view to be discussed? Hijacking is what the liberal/atheist/evo crowd does when it forces out the alternate point of view using the heavy hand of the government.

People are wanting creation BACK in schools. It’s not like evolution was always taught and the Christians and creationists are asking for something new to be done. They are simply resisting being muscled out of the picture.

But like the typical bully when their victim fights back, they go whining and crying about how “it’s not faaaiiirrr”. They want their point of view to have precedence at the expense of all others; not even willing to share the stage. All I see is that others are asking for equal time, something the evos are not willing to grant any other view point. They’re great at dishing it out but terrible about taking it.

I fail to see how someone can justify forcing their own viewpoint on others and complain when someone else wants to allow others simply to be expressed.


446 posted on 09/15/2008 8:16:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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447 posted on 09/15/2008 8:17:30 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; tpanther

Either teach both, teach neither or allow parents to apply their educational tax dollars to the school of their choice. My sympathies lie with the latter. But it is clear that political force will need to be employed to achieve any of the options listed above.


449 posted on 09/15/2008 8:28:22 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom

This question is for you and all other pro-ID, pro-creationists ant-evolution folks out there. I mean no offense.

The future of out great country could be at stake with this next election. Many critical issues need to be resolved.

Do you view this debate as critical (evo v. ID)? Or to put it very simply: Would you vote for someone who is 100% behind evolution and thinks ID/Creationism is solely a religous issue and doesn’t belong in the classroom?

Of course the opposite applies for evo fans. Would they vote for someone who rejects evolution and wants ID/Creationism taught in public school?

In the interest of full-disclosure I’m firmly in the Darwin camp and conservative as the day is long. If McCain/Palin came out firmly on the teach ID/Creationism in school as an alternative theory, I will be very dissapointed, but I will still vote for them as the other stakes are too high.


452 posted on 09/15/2008 8:51:50 AM PDT by strider44
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To: metmom
Lawsuits may be an expression of some parents wishes, but what gives them the right to force that on all the other hundreds of parents?

The Constitution, unfortunately for you. If you file a lawsuit because you feel your rights are being trampled, and you win, it doesn't matter how many people are on the other side. They have to behave in a way that doesn't violate your rights.

If parents have the right to file lawsuits for evo only, then parents have the right to file lawsuits to have both.

Did anyone say otherwise? Please, go ahead and file a lawsuit to force creation back into the curriculum. The case should be entertaining.

459 posted on 09/15/2008 10:46:01 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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