This question is for you and all other pro-ID, pro-creationists ant-evolution folks out there. I mean no offense.
The future of out great country could be at stake with this next election. Many critical issues need to be resolved.
Do you view this debate as critical (evo v. ID)? Or to put it very simply: Would you vote for someone who is 100% behind evolution and thinks ID/Creationism is solely a religous issue and doesn’t belong in the classroom?
Of course the opposite applies for evo fans. Would they vote for someone who rejects evolution and wants ID/Creationism taught in public school?
In the interest of full-disclosure I’m firmly in the Darwin camp and conservative as the day is long. If McCain/Palin came out firmly on the teach ID/Creationism in school as an alternative theory, I will be very dissapointed, but I will still vote for them as the other stakes are too high.
A presidential contender's personal opinion on the subject is just that. The president is really limited in just what he personally can do about issues. Aside from appointing Supreme Court justices, the way the system of government is set up, precludes one man from taking power and enforcing his agenda. He may push for it, but that still doesn't mean it's going to happen.
As a practical matter, I really don't think that scenario is going to come up. From what I've seen, most candidates are not either/or as far as only creation or only evolution; Sarah Palin being a case in point. Her faith and conservative Christian position are well known and yet even she doesn't advocate only one or the other. She's for allowing both.
As is the case for most creationists that I know of. The problem is it seems like the evo camp is the one most often championing for only one; that is evolution. About everyone else is for allowing ID/creation also, not instead of. I have no doubt that there are creationists who would like to see only creation taught in schools, but if you follow the debates, most of the push is for both.
I noticed an interesting thing about your questions. That is that you asked ....
Do you view this debate as critical (evo v. ID)? Or to put it very simply: Would you vote for someone who is 100% behind evolution and thinks ID/Creationism is solely a religous issue and doesn’t belong in the classroom?
Of course the opposite applies for evo fans. Would they vote for someone who rejects evolution and wants ID/Creationism taught in public school?
It seems like you asked two different questions. Did you mean in the second question whether they would vote for someone who only wants creation/ID taught in the classroom and thinks that evolution should not be taught? Or did you mean to ask if either side would be willing to accept all three (evo,ID,creation) being taught?
My application of importance to crevo is way beneath this culture war forced onto Americans by godless liberals.
I’m not a Bible-thumper, I’m a Christian that struggles through life like anyone else. But you almost have to be in a coma to see there’s INDEED controversy around us. And it’s so much larger than just crevo...it’s a battle in virtually ALL public realms at this point.
Godless liberals trying to rewrite history and redefine our country and our culture with this incessant ‘separation of church and state’ PC idiocy.
When the Federal holiday Christmas is offensive, requiring legal action to remove it from school calendars, then a thinking person would understand there’s something DEEPLY wrong.
IN FACT, I see what’s being done to this country from WITHIN is far more damaging to us than outside forces.
And FR has done a great job at exposing these dangers.
Censorship and suing Christians into silence, attacking God etc. really isn’t something I foresaw as a kid growing up or even as a young adult for that matter. It astounds me everyday how much Americans have allowed.
I remember gays coming “out of the closet” and I could care less what people do in their homes, but it seems now...only the Christians are “allowed” to do what’s been plainly unoffensive since our founding, ONLY behind closed doors. Keep our beliefs to ourselves in church on Sunday “where it belongs” and meanwhile militant gays are on our open streets in this country breaking laws, with no regard for themselves let alone children...
we now have NAMBLA which blows my mind that this is even allowed to EXIST at all... and slowly incrementally as decent normal Americans sit around indifferent like frogs in boiling water, it gets worse every year to the point between generations it becomes unrecognizable.
To the point NOW they’ve actually succeeded in hijacking one of our major political parties and things like partial birth abortion are part of their “core beliefs”, along with gay marriage, pretty much anything that undermines the America of my youth. More accurately, the right things about America from my youth.
Gay “marriage”...50%+ divorce rates, depravity, failed public schools have been a few of the many results.
Lastly, demanding God be out of science, indeed public schools coupled with censorship just isn’t conservative. It’s just not. Anyway you slice it.
Although I do understand a rational person that is SOLELY interested in the science can disagree, I just find this is the case about 2% of the time.
My own belief is that evolution is theory, Darwin was a capable person that had useful ideas that have been ****SURPIRSE***** hijacked by too many people angry at God.
My position is let there be debate. PERIOD. When a person has an idea it sickens me that they’re shouted down, sued or lectured by pseudo-intellectuals blabbering “that’s not science” as if ONLY atheists know what science is, much less they’re interested in the science in the first place!
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But in answer to your question, I’m not a single or even several issues voter. I do however think this next election will be perhaps as important when it comes to SCOTUS appointments as anything else that this next president may do for better or worse, we’ll see.
The republicans vs. democrats reminds me of an old saying: My worst day fishing is better than my best day working.
Not a big fisherman, but...there’s simply no comparison. The hypocrat party has been transformed beyond anything intelligible.