Dover: eleven parents sued the school district. Georgia stickers: five parents sued the school district. metmom had framed the lawsuits about creationism in the classroom as a denial of parents' wishes; I was just pointing out that the lawsuits were, in fact, expressions of parents' wishes.
And you keep referring us to the Thomas More Law Center. I see that the main item on their Web site is a story about how they successfully filed a lawsuit against a school district on behalf of someone who wanted to mention God in the classroom. Do you have an intellectually consistent explanation for why that suit wasn't HIJACKING the court system, but those other two lawsuits were?
Lawsuits may be an expression of some parents wishes, but what gives them the right to force that on all the other hundreds of parents? So the lawsuits filed back are the expression of other parents wishes. So why are they condemned for fighting back when the parents who file the lawsuits against creation are lauded? If parents have the right to file lawsuits for evo only, then parents have the right to file lawsuits to have both.
Why didn’t they start their own private evo only school? Why didn’t they push for the option of opting out when creation or ID was addressed in the classroom, just like with health classes when the sex ed section comes up. That would have been a much more reasonable alternative.
But they’re not interested in reasonable. They want control otherwise they would not have filed lawsuits to FORCE the majority to capitulate to their selfish demands.
How is it hijacking the system to allow more than one point of view to be discussed? Hijacking is what the liberal/atheist/evo crowd does when it forces out the alternate point of view using the heavy hand of the government.
People are wanting creation BACK in schools. It’s not like evolution was always taught and the Christians and creationists are asking for something new to be done. They are simply resisting being muscled out of the picture.
But like the typical bully when their victim fights back, they go whining and crying about how “it’s not faaaiiirrr”. They want their point of view to have precedence at the expense of all others; not even willing to share the stage. All I see is that others are asking for equal time, something the evos are not willing to grant any other view point. They’re great at dishing it out but terrible about taking it.
I fail to see how someone can justify forcing their own viewpoint on others and complain when someone else wants to allow others simply to be expressed.
Dover: eleven parents sued the school district. Georgia stickers: five parents sued the school district. metmom had framed the lawsuits about creationism in the classroom as a denial of parents’ wishes; I was just pointing out that the lawsuits were, in fact, expressions of parents’ wishes.
I’m sure some were, but I see you conveniently left out the Georgia ACLU case. No one can seem to come up with striking Christmas from the school calendar as a concerted effort by PARENTS.
And it still doesn’t address the fact that a handful of minortiy godless parents everytime they get offended by God or Christians run and sue to silence or censor. Metmom makes a good point, why don’t you simply opt out?
Why doesn’t Michael Newdow simply NOT say Under God in the pledge?
Why is it when Christians simply publically exercise their rights, this automatically means they’re infringing upon yours? I don’t understand this because there seems to plenty of room for eveyone, everyone’s beliefs...????
And you keep referring us to the Thomas More Law Center.
>>>>>>Yes, I think it’s time people understand the tipping point is BEHIND us now....the godless liberals set up the rules for all of us and now decent normal people who are tired of having the world around them hijacked and redefined by godless angry liberals have finally had enough! Legal help exists for helping people with those sneaky tactics by the Georgia ACLU threatening legal action with NO parental notification for instance.
I see that the main item on their Web site is a story about how they successfully filed a lawsuit against a school district on behalf of someone who wanted to mention God in the classroom. Do you have an intellectually consistent explanation for why that suit wasn’t HIJACKING the court system, but those other two lawsuits were?
>>>>> You’re serious?
First you have to understand there was indeed a time when God was welcome in school. Schools weren’t perfect but they weren’t the utter chaotic FAILED messes that they are now! It wasn’t even that long ago, frankly. Even when prayer was attacked and removed, it still took several decades for the full effect to be realized. And the NEA wasn’t yet hijacked by godless liberals. And political correctness wasn’t yet fully born either.
OF COURSE it’s different because this country was once a country where people weren’t afraid to say Merry Christmas in public, or display nativity scenes, or mention a Judeo-Christian God in ALL public realms including schools.
As I said, godless liberals made the rules, it’s just that now Christians have been forced to play by them, but are now more fully engaged. I suspect you’ll now begin to see TMLC and the ACLJ and most likely others begin to go on the offensive in some cases. As opposed oi stopping the bleeding and tying up all resources on the defensive, they’ll see the need to FULLY ENGAGE and begin tying up the ACLU with their very own tactics.
Eventually, it could even be that prayer will return to schools, Roe v Wade will be overturned, and creation will be taught to the EXCLUSION of evolution and the reason will be 100% because of godless liberals, blowback and resisting their nonsense!
I’ve said many times before, EVENTUALLY the SCOTUS will FINALLY have to address this culture war nonsense that wastes taxpayer money, is UN-American, and ties up our courts with incessant God-hate.
Sooner or later we’ll have a final word explaining God and Christianity is part of our culture, has always been part of our nation’s heritage, WILL ALWAYS BE and godless liberals with all their hang-ups will simply have to get over it already!
I can’t think of any other group that’s so easily offended and has to hijkack the law to run an end around society in this way. One would think they had better things to do or be offended ABOUT!
And as for a supernatural spirit that doesn’t exist in the first place, or that’s just a fairy tale; godless liberals sure do spend virtually their whole being resisting Him, fighting Him, keeping Him out of their reach and so on!