What exactly are you trying to suggest here?
The tin foil hat, conspiracy theory that was being alluded to is summarized here:
My point was that, if FDR had, indeed, known about the attack of Pearl Harbor, he would have gotten both his carriers AND his battleships far away from Pearl Harbor as an attack on U.S. soil would have whipped up the war fever no matter how many or how few battleships were sunk.
Knowing that "the Japanese wanted to attack us" and having Pearl Harbor caught by surprise on 7 December 1941 does not, by itself, make a credible conspiracy theory. Everybody and his pet dog knew on 10 September 2001 that Osama bin Ladin wanted to attack America someday, somehow, somewhere. That extremely non-specific information, however, does not give anybody the 20/20 hindsight on the morning of 11 September 2001 that we had on 11 September 2002 that would have had every Police and Federal SWAT team in New England waiting for a bunch of Arabs to arrive at the airport in Boston on the morning of 11 September 2001.
During the election of 1940, FDR promised over and over again: "I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again; your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars."
"I am shocked, SHOCKED, that a politician would lie to get elected. When has that EVER happened before on the Planet Earth?"
At the same time, he confided to aides that an attack on the US would make it no longer a "foreign war."
During early 1941 there were several attacks by German U-boats on US ships, including the Robin Moore, Greer, Kearny, Salinas and most famously, the Reuben James. Each time, FDR made fiery speeches against Germany, and each time Congress and the US public ignored him. Americans seriously wanted no part of that "foreign war."
All those incidents can be explained away and swept under that rug as "Fog of War Sh#t Happens" if both sides want to explain it away.
"Fog of War Sh#t Happens" to the others guys, both friends and foes ......
"Fog of War Sh#t Happens" to us ......
A massive fleet attack on Pearl Harbor, however, cannot be be explained away and swept under the rug as Fog of War by either side. Such an attack is the Mother of All Rubicons.
So, it seems that many people do not understand what was going on in the US, and worldwide, at that time. That's leading to some pretty strange conclusions.
What was happening was that both FDR and Churchill believed that it was best for the future and the very survival of the Free World if the U.S. was in the fight against Nazi Germany. That, however, is a totally different animal than claiming that FDR deliberately allowed Pearl Harbor to be caught flat-footed into order for FDR to get his war. As I noted, if FDR wanted his war, he could have had his carriers AND his battleships out of Pearl Harbor and, when Japanese bombs fell on a U.S. Naval Base and a U.S. territory, FDR would have had his desired war plus, not only that, the Japanese would have had their Midway surprise at Pearl Harbor as U.S. carriers and land-based air power lay in wait for them to launch the Pearl Harbor attack. FDR would have had both his War and his VICTORY all on the same morning.
However, as in any historical event, conspiracy theories will always abound.
I'd suggest crack a book or two. Learn something about our history.
I still have absolutely no idea what your point was.
Did you believe that I believed the conspiracy theories that FDR deliberately allowed Pearl Harbor to be caught flat-footed? Do YOU believe the conspiracy theories that FDR deliberately allowed Pearl Harbor to be caught flat-footed? Were you saying that you had never known those conspiracy theories existed?
What was your point?
Cracking "a book or two" to learn that FDR made campaign promises he knew he couldn't keep does not do you much good in understanding History unless you have also cracked hundreds of other books and also know that politicians have been lying through their teeth to voters since the days of Pericles.
