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Soros behind Mass. effort to decriminalize pot
AP ^ | 8/27/08 | By STEVE LeBLANC

Posted on 08/27/2008 2:26:50 PM PDT by april15Bendovr

Soros behind Mass. effort to decriminalize pot By STEVE LeBLANC – 1 hour ago

BOSTON (AP) — A measure that would decriminalize minor marijuana-possession cases is on the ballot in Massachusetts largely because of one man: billionaire financier and liberal activist George Soros.

Of the $429,000 collected last year by the group advancing the measure, $400,000 came from Soros, who has championed similar efforts in several states and spent $24 million to fight President Bush's 2004 re-election bid. The Committee for Sensible Marijuana Policy needed about $315,000 of that just to collect the more than 100,000 signatures that secured a spot on the ballot, according to campaign finance reports reviewed by The Associated Press.

"All of us owe George Soros a great deal of gratitude," said Keith Stroup, founder of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: fundingtheleft; georgesoros; marijuana; norml; pot; potheads; soros; wod
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Hey, I have seen it happen. Personally. My friend and my brother. Both went through the same regressive lifestyle that I mentioned above.

And it is idiots like you try to bury the facts and convince people that pot really isn’t that bad. All because, for selfish reasons, you want to be able to get high.

Their blood, suffering and pain is on your hands, Brutus.


41 posted on 08/28/2008 9:51:55 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Can you imagine the hell we would be living in if the government did everything "right"?

42 posted on 08/28/2008 9:53:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

“Could be because your sample is tainted, i.e., made up entirely of people who needed your services as a mental health counselor. If you think about it a bit, you might realize the type of people who might need mental health services might also be the same type of people who would self-medicate with recreational drugs like marijuana.”

Many people come to us self medicate but studies show that marijuana actually induces mental illness.

In our field this Lancet article is considered irrefutable.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17662880?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic review.


43 posted on 08/28/2008 9:57:17 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: tacticalogic
If an ardent socialist who wishes to destroy our culture and way of life is pushing pot then what does that say about pot? What does the UN banning it say about it?

I can't claim to be an expert on the UN, but off hand I would say it's because most leaders inherently recognize its danger to society no matter what society it is. While communists would love to foist it on us to destroy us, they would quickly ban it once in power.

44 posted on 08/28/2008 9:59:08 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
If an ardent socialist who wishes to destroy our culture and way of life is pushing pot then what does that say about pot?

That a stopped clock can be right twice a day? Soros may be an archvillian right out of central casting, but the War on Drugs is an anti-Constitutional relic and needs to go. Freedom is about the right to make bad choices. Smoking pot's a bad choice but police state thuggery is far worse.

45 posted on 08/28/2008 10:00:13 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: dhs12345
Seems that your are suggesting that alcohol is bad. I agree.

No, I am suggesting that you answer a couple of simple, straightforward questions, weasel.

46 posted on 08/28/2008 10:00:47 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Steel Wolf
That a stopped clock can be right twice a day? Soros may be an archvillian right out of central casting, but the War on Drugs is an anti-Constitutional relic and needs to go. Freedom is about the right to make bad choices. Smoking pot's a bad choice but police state thuggery is far worse.

Oh come on. Soros is spending millions of dollars to get pot legalized in the United States in any way, shape or form he can. Do you really think he's doing it because he loves the constitution so much? Or do you think he has other reasons?

47 posted on 08/28/2008 10:03:27 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Ken H
LOL. Go suck on your bong. You'll be a lot happier. I promise.
48 posted on 08/28/2008 10:20:51 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: DouglasKC

You must think you fellow citizens are idiots.


49 posted on 08/28/2008 10:32:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Steel Wolf

In the long run Marijuana makes people more reliant on government as it continues to make society and individuals more dysfunctional.


50 posted on 08/28/2008 10:33:39 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: dhs12345
Its a sad day when some people here at Free Republic defend 2 bad things responsible for the dumbing down of America.

Soros and Marijuana

51 posted on 08/28/2008 10:37:26 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: tacticalogic
You must think you fellow citizens are idiots.

Not really. However, I think Soro's and his ilk have put up a masterful propaganda plan for legalizing drugs by convincing conservatives that drug legalization is patriotic. We saw the same thing with pornography. Soros is nothing more than Larry Flynt wrapped in flag.

52 posted on 08/28/2008 10:39:35 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

And you figure conservatives don’t know propaganda when they see it, or don’t know the difference between being in favor of something and being against the federal government getting involved because it’s not within the scope of their authority?


53 posted on 08/28/2008 10:56:42 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dhs12345
Their blood, suffering and pain is on your hands, Brutus.

If your brother and friend pissed their lives away on pot, then---no offense---your brother and friend were, or perhaps still are, both pretty weak individuals---pot be damned. Blaming any sort of inanimate object for one's woes is the first step to a socialist mindset . . . wholly akin to the "guns kill people" line of reasoning used by our opponents on the left. It's far easier to blame something like pot for all your troubles than it is to take a cold, hard look in the mirror: it's a weakling's excuse.

54 posted on 08/28/2008 11:03:24 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: april15Bendovr
Its a sad day when some people here at Free Republic defend 2 bad things responsible for the dumbing down of America.

Some of us just don't accept cheap propanda tricks as good arguments.

55 posted on 08/28/2008 11:05:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: april15Bendovr
Its a sad day when some people here at Free Republic defend 2 bad things

And those bad things are failed drug war propaganda and big government.
56 posted on 08/28/2008 11:06:56 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: april15Bendovr
In your own field, an article couched with such squishy language is considered "irrefutable?"

The evidence is consistent with the view that cannabis increases risk of psychotic outcomes independently of confounding and transient intoxication effects, although evidence for affective outcomes is less strong. The uncertainty about whether cannabis causes psychosis is unlikely to be resolved by further longitudinal studies such as those reviewed here. However, we conclude that there is now sufficient evidence to warn young people that using cannabis could increase their risk of developing a psychotic illness later in life.

No offense, but that's not much of a field you have there, is it? I'd hate to base my entire line of reasoning on something so full of "mabyes" and "coulds," but hey, you go for it. I guess selling snake oil never goes out of fashion.

57 posted on 08/28/2008 11:08:46 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: april15Bendovr
Its a sad day when some people here at Free Republic defend 2 bad things responsible for the dumbing down of America.

You mean pop culture and the nanny state?

58 posted on 08/28/2008 11:15:28 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: april15Bendovr
In the long run Marijuana makes people more reliant on government as it continues to make society and individuals more dysfunctional.

Okay. So some people will seek self destructive measures and wind up an unholy mess. I *don't* care. I understand this is an imperfect world, and that my tax dollars will wind up wiping the mess of fools. Nobody (reasonable) ever said that life was fair.

What I'm 100% done with is using my tax dollars to fund police state evisceration of the Constitution, all in the name of keeping me safe from an evil plant monster.

I realize the danger from even mild drugs is real, and destroys lives. Stupidity kills, Darwin strikes again. I still want the government stripped of the excessive law enforcement powers it's given itself to stop the evil plant monster at all costs. We can use every penny of the savings to go into treatment, counseling and education, as far as I'm concerned.

59 posted on 08/28/2008 11:25:22 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate" Ibn Warraq)
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To: tacticalogic
And you figure conservatives don’t know propaganda when they see it, or don’t know the difference between being in favor of something and being against the federal government getting involved because it’s not within the scope of their authority?

Everyone gets fooled by propaganda now and again. But wise people eventually figure out it's propaganda and turn their back on it. Are you in favor of Soros funding states efforts to get pot legalized?

60 posted on 08/28/2008 11:27:44 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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