[Dajjal]

Yeah, the Pakistan "travel restrictions" is another one of those "some people on the internet say" stories.

I agree on the fishyness of both using an Indonesian passport as an adult, and the lack of explanation by the campaign.

If he has a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, I'd like him to show it to some objective authority, like a judge or the several secretaries of the 50 states.

[Candor7]

If he has a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, I'd like him to show it to some objective authority, like a judge or the several secretaries of the 50 states>>>>>>>>>>>

That would have been certainly a lot easier than all the smoke and mirrors the campaign has put out there on the issue.

Its a piece of paper which can be photographed and posted, but that has not been forthcoming. My bet is that Obama does not have a valid US CLB, and that what he does have is a forgery.