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Class of '08 Fails To Lift SAT Scores
Wall Street Journal ^ | 27 August 2008 | JOHN HECHINGER

Posted on 08/26/2008 6:15:13 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: varyouga

“They were the last “old-school” decent teachers I knew that actually cared about education instead of “diversity” and “self esteem”. Unfortunately, they all recently retired because they couldn’t handle the insanity.”

And therin sits the 500 lb gorilla. I make no secret of my distaste for the government schools. But to their credit, even if they were inclined to make some radical reforms, who would be there to do it? There is simply no pool of highly talented individuals willing to go get a masters degree to earn the pittance that starting teachers get paid. The teachers that are there are rapidly nearing retirement.

You’re seeing the collapse of government schools in ever increasing motion.


21 posted on 08/27/2008 2:26:59 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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The problem is that the government favors “diversity” instead of the safety of teachers and students.

2 excellent teachers I knew retired because they got tired of getting into fistfights every other day with kids roaming the halls.

My old high school went from one of the top schools in the nation to a place that looks like a prison. Hell, prisons have more discipline. It all dropped like a stone after they redrew districts and started busing in “disadvantaged” kids from a different highschool. Yes, those schools were bad. But now EVERY school in the borough is a war zone.

A friend was working there and asked me to come in one day. There used to be not a sound in the hallways. Now gangs roam around with boomboxes and openly sell drugs in school. Security consists of metal detecting to try to stop shootings and stabbings. It's almost a free-for-all past the door. I wish I was exaggerating.

22 posted on 08/27/2008 4:46:25 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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Are you sure you’re on the right thread?


23 posted on 08/27/2008 5:26:40 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Yes. Scores reflect learning. When there is no impetus to learn, scores drop.


24 posted on 08/27/2008 6:25:21 AM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Dare dey go agin, dissin minorities. Gonna lower dare self-esteems.

I would venture to say that if a student scores low on the SAT, his self-esteem is lowered, no matter how high his assigned racial group scores on average. If a student scores high, his self-esteem will be fine, no matter how low his assigned racial group scores on average.

The problem is, when his "assigned group" scores low on average, his self-esteem isn't lowered, but his chances of getting a good job are.

25 posted on 08/27/2008 9:31:45 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I agree with your observations. My comments were not directed at minorities as such but at the silliness of our current education system. In some schools grades are eliminated or greatly inflated to, supposedly, protect the students self esteem.

The whole system of scoring by ethnic groups and gender is to create class division and set the stage for more money for special programs which never seem to work. It does, however, direct more money to the groups who create the problem in the first place


26 posted on 08/27/2008 9:47:51 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I couldn’t agree more. By placing each one of us into these little categories, the government only perpetuates the problems it purports to solve. (Little tongue twister there.) The government should drop the little categories. (I refuse to check those little boxes anymore.)


27 posted on 08/27/2008 10:42:38 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
.. perpetuates the problems it purports to solve. (Little tongue twister there.)

That had to be just coincidental else you would have said:

... perpetuates the pernicious problems in purports to prevent. Enough! I give up.

:-)

28 posted on 08/27/2008 11:26:35 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Yes, that tongue-twister was accidental. Yours is definitely better. :-)


29 posted on 08/27/2008 1:04:44 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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