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NATO was chartered as "a defensive organization" (against the SU during the Cold War), but it broke its own charter in 1999 with the 78 day NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia. That told everyone that NATO was no longer about "defense of NATO nations" -- it was a military force for world government.

And that is the root of the problem. NATO is no longer what it was supposed to be.

I don't like Russia, long story there, but quite frankly if we had been trying to start a war, our recent actions would be doing just fine. Russia is acting like Russia again, not the USSR. We as a nation had better realize that.

[Bokababe]

"I don't like Russia, long story there, but quite frankly if we had been trying to start a war, our recent actions would be doing just fine. Russia is acting like Russia again, not the USSR. We as a nation had better realize that."

Exactly -- and the Russian Bear is unwilling to be cornered and forcibly neutered, which is precisely what we are attempting to do. It's totally insane.