I know this is a foreign concept to you, but science doesn’t investigate or think about religion. There is no such thing as God centered science.
Your problem seems to be that some specific, literal statements from the Bible simply aren’t true. When the conflict between a literal reading and reality becomes too strong, they resolve it by changing their reading of the Bible and claiming that there never was a reading that conflicted with science.
There are actually quite a few, and I suspect you have come to terms with most of them. I see people on these threads that simply deny that the earth moving poses a problem with a literal reading.
In time, all Christians, except for a few FReepers, will come to terms with evolution, as they have come to terms with heliocentrism.
I did not say that there was "God-centered" science. This is your strawman creation and I can not defend an argument of your creation.
I **did** say that the actual practice of science can be ( and most often is) religious neutral.
While the actual facts of science are religiously neutral those facts can only be presented within one of two contexts: godless or God-centered.
In the first context ( godless), students are left with the impression that the natural world around them, and they ( as people), are mere accidents and the impersonal products of scientific laws.
In the second context ( God-centered), the same scientific facts are presented as a reflection of the glory of a rational God. In my specific religious tradition it is our duty before God to learn as much as we are capable about the scientific workings of God and to use our knowledge in His service.
Both the godless and God-centented contexts have **profound** religious, cultural, and political consequences. These consequences are **NOT** religiously neutral. No matter how the government decides, the government will establish the religous worldview of one group ( godless or God-centered) and trash that of the other.
Your problem seems to be that some specific, literal statements from the Bible simply aren’t true. When the conflict between a literal reading and reality becomes too strong, they resolve it by changing their reading of the Bible and claiming that there never was a reading that conflicted with science.
So?....Why would you care if your child attended a private school of your choice, and those with whom you disagree attended a private school of their choice?
In my own religious tradition, we have a hard, unblinking, acceptance of scientific facts as they present themselves. It is our belief that in time the differences between the Bible and science will be resolved.
By the way, if you wrote a short 1,000 word essay on the creation of the universe and man's appearance on it, and wrote it in a manner that a very primitive people could understand it, how do you think you essay would sound? Do you think your essay to this primitive people would seem as magically and unbelievable as Genesis?
Genesis was not a revelation for us. It was a revelation to a very primitive people. Of any of the world's creation stories it is the **only** one that makes any logical sense, and, in fact, presents a story that rather closely matches what we know today actually occurred.
There are actually quite a few, and I suspect you have come to terms with most of them. I see people on these threads that simply deny that the earth moving poses a problem with a literal reading.
So? If their children attended private schools of their choice, and your children attended private schools of your choice, why would you care? Personally, I would simply write them off as being eccentric in the manner that the Amish are eccentric.
The problem with government schools is that the government must choose between their worldview and yours! The government has the police power to force your worldview on them with **profound** religious consequences.
And...Remember!...Any government powerful enough to use police threat to force your worldview on them is powerful enough to force their worldview on **you**!
In time, all Christians, except for a few FReepers, will come to terms with evolution, as they have come to terms with heliocentrism.
In time, maybe they will....but...It is **not** constitutional for government to destroy the religious belief of their children!
I need to be more specific. The above should read:
While the actual facts of science are religiously neutral, those facts can only be presented to students in the classroom within one of two contexts: godless or God-centered.
Please remember that students are incapable of being working and practicing research scientists. This level of practice is usually impossible until after the upper division courses in college and, most often, not until graduate schools. Students on the lower levels are accumulating facts, and the context within which those religiously neutral facts are presented is not religiously neutral.
I know this is a foreign concept to you, but science doesn’t investigate or think about religion. There is no such thing as God centered science.
>>>>>>>What you fail to understand is science isn’t NON-God centered either. Science doesn’t belong to an exclusively atheistic club.
In time, all Christians, except for a few FReepers, will come to terms with evolution, as they have come to terms with heliocentrism.
>>>>>>>It’s not that Christians have so much of a problem with Evolution being taught, although there are gaping holes and lots of unexplained problems in the “theory”...we have a problem wth godless liberals pretending they know what they’re talking about, are objective, all while ignoring that godless liberals have been DISASTROUS in public run schools WHILE censoring and suing ID into silence!