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To: js1138

sorry, protecting a spin off cult from a minority sect won’t cut it.

but that’s usually what heppens when defending the indefensible.


251 posted on 08/25/2008 6:36:46 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

So you would agree on general principles that the state can take children from their parents without a specific charge of abuse?

I have a particular interest in this because I was a family counselor in Children’s Protective Services for seven years. It was more than twenty years ago, and things may have changed, but I managed not to put any kids in foster care.

By the way, I answered your question. Now answer mine.

Do you eat pork? Does the earth move?


252 posted on 08/25/2008 6:49:51 PM PDT by js1138
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To: tpanther

The ACLU of Southern California (2008) filed suit on behalf of members of a faith-based charity organization after park rangers threatened to arrest the members for serving hot meals and distributing Bibles to the homeless on Doheny State Beach.
http://www.aclu-sc.org/releases/view/102...

The ACLU of Louisiana (2008) filed a brief before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit supporting an individual's right to quote Bible verses on public streets in Zachary, Louisiana.
http://www.laaclu.org/News/2008/Netherla...

The ACLU and the ACLU of Texas(2008) filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the Texas Supreme Court in support of mothers who had been separated from their children by the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services (DFPS). The DFPS seized more than 450 children from their homes in Eldorado, Texas following vague allegations about child abuse by some members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. While fully supporting the state's commitment to protecting children from abuse, the ACLU argued that Texas law and the U.S. Constitution required that the children be returned unless the state could provide the requisite evidence of abuse. Neither Texas law nor the U.S. Constitution allows the state to separate children and their parents based on purported cultural harm alone or on the state's disapproval of the families’ religious beliefs. In May 2008, the Texas Supreme Court unanimously ruled, consistent with the ACLU position, that the state must return the children to their homes pending further investigation of allegations of abuse.

The ACLU of Florida (2007) argued in favor of the right of Christians to protest against a gay pride event held in the City of St. Petersburg. The City had proposed limiting opposition speech, including speech motivated by religious beliefs, to restricted “free speech zones.” After receiving the ACLU’s letter, the City revised its proposed ordinance.

You asked for one example. I've given several. Now answer my questions.

Do you eat pork? Does the earth move?

254 posted on 08/25/2008 7:08:01 PM PDT by js1138
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