Posted on 08/24/2008 2:16:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
...In February, the Florida Department of Education modified its standards to explicitly require, for the first time, the state’s public schools to teach evolution, calling it “the organizing principle of life science.” Spurred in part by legal rulings against school districts seeking to favor religious versions of natural history, over a dozen other states have also given more emphasis in recent years to what has long been the scientific consensus: that all of the diverse life forms on Earth descended from a common ancestor, through a process of mutation and natural selection, over billions of years.
But in a nation where evangelical Protestantism and other religious traditions stress a literal reading of the biblical description of God’s individually creating each species, students often arrive at school fearing that evolution, and perhaps science itself, is hostile to their faith.
Some come armed with “Ten questions to ask your biology teacher about evolution,” a document circulated on the Internet that highlights supposed weaknesses in evolutionary theory. Others scrawl their opposition on homework assignments. Many just tune out.
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The solution is to fund the child. Allow the parents to send the child to a private school of their choice. Evos can go to evo schools, and creationists can go to creationist schools.
Also there is far more involved that just evolution. The government schools are stuffed to the brim with a materialistic athletic worldview in **every** class.
If religious people were to give the Evos "a taste of their own medicine! " which one of the Ten Commandments would be broken here? Answer: The Commandment against stealing!
The creationists would be using government to **steal** freedom of conscience and free agency from the evolutionists. The creationists would also be stealing money from the tax payers to fund their worldview.
How is it that we have these godless government schools today?
It started in the mid nineteenth century. Christians being fearful of the influx of Catholics instituted government funded **compulsory** government schools that basically **forced** Protestant Christianity on unwilling children. The Catholics fooled them and started parochial schools.
The Christians in the mid nineteenth century could not imagine that any government powerful enough to **steal** freedom of conscience from Catholic immigrants was also powerful enough to force atheism on Christians.
Therefore...NO! The answer is to stop stealing freedom of conscience from other people. Eventually begin the process of privatizing education.
She's been drinking evo kool-aid. Talking points right out of the play book.
Which one will cause you to lose more sleep?
Use all the force you want; maybe you can room with Kent Hovind when you get run in.
But I understand that desperation requires desperate measures, and your side lost the battle back about the time of The Enlightenment.
Ping. You may have been pinged already, and, if so, please disregard this supernumerary ping.
What happened at the meeting that you would need the protection of uniformed police???
You keep posting to me. Isn't that against the rules?
For the record, I have stopped worrying about your crusade to prove that anal sex is safe. FreeRepublic's support for HIV denialism will no doubt enhance the Republican's chances of winning in November.
Biology is not an option in many schools. There's no *signing up* for it. You take it.
I fail to see why evos et al feel so obligated to sue every viewpoint but their own out of the classroom. They're costing schools money that they don't have in frivolous lawsuits. Not a responsible way to use the taxpayers money.
Since the exams only ask questions concerning evolution and not other theories or ideas on origins, the simple solution is that parents be given the choice to opt out of the non-evo sections of the class that deal with other thinking and ideas. Then they don't have to worry about their children being *contaminated*by being exposed to any reference to religion; and there won't be the time and money tied up in frivolous lawsuits.
It's a simple solution for those who aren't interested in thought control.
Actaully, it’s the evo science teachers who fear Creationist/ID students, not the other way around.
There was a heckler that wouldn't stand down when asked nicely, and there was some overall concern about possible violence. The room was packed, and spirits were high. The heckler was "escorted" from the room by two large men, and decided to leave after that.
I overheard some rather intolerant comments by some dyke-looking teacher afterwards, too.
Amen to that! But the evos will have none if it. In other words, “funding the child” instead of forcing all children into Darwin indoctrination centers is opposed by the evos even more than teaching both sides. In other words, it's another force issue.
Is this a new tune from kids are supposed to learn science in science class?
Which biologists, BTW? The ones that get canned for not toeing the hardline evo view? The ones whose careers are over when they question the ToE?
So what was the heckler heckling about, and how did it all turn out, and what lessons did you learn for future contests over this issue???
That's why God invented "D's" and "F's".
Like pushing for laws to silence Christians isn't in violation of the Constitution?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
If creation is part of a religion, then prohibiting the discussing of it is preventing the free exercise of that religion and therefore is unconstitutional.
Why do the evos feel the need to sue any conflicting opinion out of the picture? Why the jackbooted thug tactics? Why the attempt at mind control to make sure the kids think the "right" thoughts?
==The ones whose careers are over when they question the ToE?
Those are the scientists he doesn’t want our children to hear from. Otherwise, Darwin’s Temple of Cards might come crashing down.
==That’s why God invented “D’s” and “F’s”.
So you think students should receive D’s and F’s for challenging the pseudoscience behind Darwin’s fairytale?
“You’re in a panic because you know The Temple of Darwin is on the verge of being pulled down by science. You should start looking for ways to keep yourself constructively occupied during what will sure to be MANY SLEEPLESS NIGHTS.”
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=scienceblogs.com%2C+uncommondescent.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
Or a theocracy could give us this.....
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Tell me, was it atheistic thinking that gave us the government we have today, or Christian thinking?
And what shall we say of the track record of atheistic regimes as far as silencing dissent? Ones headed by the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jung-il?
What can we say about the state of science under them? How did the atheistic mindset benefit science there?
Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah. I think they should receive poor grades for not mastering the subject. If I took a math class and I insisted that Pi was 3.0 because the Bible said it was then I shouldn't be surprised if I failed that question.
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