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To: MrB
Careful, you're inadvertently swerving into the fact that the Christian worldview is the basis of modern scientific thinking.

I will certainly accept the possibility that a religion that emphasises submission to the will of God is at a disadvantage when it comes to science. Fortunately, that concept is foreign to Christianity.

On a more serious note, neither religion scores all the points. Scientific thinking originated with the pagan Greeks, was preserved by Muslims, and rediscovered by devout Christians like Galileo and Bruno, who were only too happy to submit to the teachings of the Church. Fortunately the early scientists always put the authority of Genesis over their empirical findings. Otherwise they might have stumbled into heresies like believing the earth moves.

680 posted on 08/21/2008 1:04:42 PM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138; MrB

Fortunately the early scientists always put the authority of Genesis over their empirical findings. Otherwise they might have stumbled into heresies like believing the earth moves.


Oh lookie there, yet MORE proof science somehow survived Christianity! What do ya know!

Meanwhile godless liberals expect us to accept the militant homosexual agenda as normal, that infanticide is a choice, and so on...ad infinatum.


681 posted on 08/21/2008 1:14:34 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: js1138; MrB

Fortunately the early scientists always put the authority of Genesis over their empirical findings. Otherwise they might have stumbled into heresies like believing the earth moves.


Oh lookie there, yet MORE proof science somehow survived Christianity! What do ya know!

Meanwhile godless liberals expect us to accept the militant homosexual agenda as normal, that infanticide is a choice, and so on...ad infinatum.


683 posted on 08/21/2008 1:25:51 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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To: js1138
Otherwise they might have stumbled into heresies like believing the earth moves.

I have yet to come across anywhere in the Bible proclaiming something that would be considered in contradiction to the heliocentric model. There is a reference to God "hanging the earth on nothing" in the Psalms - a pretty accurate description.

The "heresy" that Galileo committed was of being a layman that was commenting on creation, stepping on the Catholic Church's toes. It was a political, not a biblical, conflict.

I believe even enlightened modern astronomers and meteorologists use the terms "sunrise" and "sunset" and "the sun is going down / coming up" etc.

The differences in the view of God is what separates the Islamists from the Christians.

Muslims view it as "chaining Allah" to assume a predictable, discoverable set of rules in the universe.

Christians expect reasonable, elegant, predictable, repeatable, and discoverable rules based on the character of the Creator.

685 posted on 08/21/2008 1:31:29 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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