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Livethread - Obama, McCain, and Rick Warren

Posted on 08/16/2008 4:57:08 PM PDT by UFC Pride K1

Share your thoughts about the Saddleback Civil Forum, which starts at 8:00pm EST..

Will Warren throw softballs on the issue of abortion?

Will he give both candidates free passes?

Will this be an attempt to minimize the lives of the unborn while giving higher priority of less urgent social issues?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: ca2008; christianvote; electionpresident; mccain; obama; prolife; rickwarren; saddleback; warren
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To: BlueAngel
“How should US end religious persecution. Obama says to speak out. Set new norms and creating a universal principle. Huh?”

Obama is pandering to liberal bastards.

241 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:29 PM PDT by Porterville (Forgive my grammar, it sucks and I ain't doing a damn thing to correct it.)
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To: TommyJoe
I havn’t heard a good answer yet!

I agree, but I did not want to hear him give a good answer.

I just hope moral people can see clearly what an imposter this man really is.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? "Matt 7:22
242 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:30 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: UFC Pride K1

Krauthammer on Fox giving Barry the smackdown..


243 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:58 PM PDT by abishai
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To: BlueAngel
Warren tells everyone to stand and thank Obama. For what?

Rick is being a gracious host.

244 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:08 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Go, Sonics! And take the Mariners with you.)
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To: BlueAngel

Dem pundit says McCain has a high bar to meet. Surprise, Surprise.


245 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:27 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Huddled Masses

Are there any real churchres left. This evangelical style has pretty much indoctrinated all churches now which is why it’s hard to find a church of substance today.


246 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:32 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Bender2

I’m not even watching the “debates”. I already know who I am voting for. I’m watching the Red Sawks....not winning.

Too early for football.


247 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:41 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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To: Delphinium

Yeah, but i would at least want to give him so appearance of a intelligent man.


248 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:41 PM PDT by TommyJoe
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To: Blogger

Thomas Merton’s prayer on evil”

“... keep me, above all things, from sin. Keep me from the death of deadly sin which puts hell in my soul. Keep me from the murder of lust that blinds and poisons my heart. Keep me from the sins that eat a man’s flesh with irresistible fire until he is devoured. Keep me from loving money in which is hatred, from avarice and ambition that suffocate my life. Keep me from the dead works of vanity and the thankless labor in which artists destroy themselves for pride and money and reputation, and saints are smothered under the avalanche of their own importunate zeal. Stanch in me the rank wound of covetousness and the hungers that exhaust my nature with their bleeding. Stamp out the serpent envy that stings love with poison and kills all joy.

Untie my hands and deliver my heart from sloth. Set me free from the laziness that goes about disguised as activity when activity is not required of me, and from the cowardice that does what is not demanded, in order to escape sacrifice.

But give me the strength that waits upon You in silence and peace. Give me humility in which alone is rest, and deliver me from prise which i s the heaviest of burdens. And possess my whole heart and soul with the simplicity of love. Occupy my whole life with the one thought and the one desire of love, that I may love not for the sake of merit, not for the sake of perfection, not for the sake of virtue, not for the sake of sanctity, but for you alone.
For there is only one thing that can satisfy love and reward it, and that is You alone.”


249 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: kenboy
So am I the only one who came out of this thinking Obama comes off as a smart, genuine, thoughtful guy?

Probably so... most of us realize that he seldom gave actual answers and when he did, the answers were in contradiction to his past (limited) voting record.

250 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:22 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (The first amendment doesn't end with "...as long as nobody is offended.")
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To: TN4Liberty

“At least he isn’t orange like Algore was”

Orange+Green=Brown


251 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:36 PM PDT by beefree (hobby geologist)
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To: Porterville
Conclusion: America's Fault.

I missed that, what did he say?
252 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:44 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Ebay, Great answer!


253 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:28 PM PDT by TommyJoe
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To: Delphinium

John’s answers...direct and inspiring.


254 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:57 PM PDT by Huddled Masses ("There you go again...")
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To: Blogger

” Why was your birth certificate faked, Barry? ‘

That would be a tough question. Obama is getting cotton balls from Barbara Walters Warren.
I think even aged Billy Graham would have asked tougher questions.
Pathetic and slimey attempt by Barry to latch himelf onto his grandfather’s military service by mentioning his visit/photo op to his grave at Punchbowl and his photo op to Pearl Harbor.
I don’t think I have ever heard McCain talk about visiting his father and grandfather’s graves at Arlington.
And he sure as heck wouldn’t have made it a tour stop for the media.


255 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:04 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: TommyJoe

All three people were good, IMHO.


256 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:06 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: TommyJoe

Great answer on the first wife! He just got my Vote twice!


257 posted on 08/16/2008 6:05:31 PM PDT by TommyJoe
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To: Huddled Masses

Guts. Brings up his first marriage. It isn’t a difficult subject for him becuase he has dealt with it and even his ex likes him, but it takes guts to bring it up.


258 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:07 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: TommyJoe

Do you notice that he is looking Bill in the eyes when answering?


259 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:13 PM PDT by TommyJoe
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To: SandyInSeattle

McCain thinks the failure of his first marriage is his greatest moral failure.

Oh, he lost me by criticizing the President. He is sounding like a dem.


260 posted on 08/16/2008 6:06:23 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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