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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: mnehrling

“We all will lose.”

Heck that happened when Juanito got nominated.


181 posted on 08/15/2008 8:34:56 AM PDT by Grunthor (Dems want to destroy America, Republicans just want to be Dems.)
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To: Alter Kaker

McCain has a base to alarm?


182 posted on 08/15/2008 8:38:17 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I am puzzled by all this talk about this, we have to be talking about Joe as he is the only Lieberman in the Senate.

Does this make sense for the GOP?:

[Senator Lieberman was first elected to the United States Senate in 1988, scoring the nation’s biggest political upset that year by a margin of just 10,000 votes. Six years later, he made history by winning the biggest landslide victory ever in a Connecticut Senate race, drawing 67 percent of the vote and beating his opponent by more than 350,000 votes. In 2000, Senator Lieberman was elected by another overwhelming margin to a third term.

In 2006, Senator Lieberman was elected to a fourth term as an Independent, because of the strength of his record and his accomplishments for the state. He won the general election by more than 100,000 votes. He remains committed to caucusing with Senate Democrats, but will be identified as an Independent Democrat (ID-CT).]


183 posted on 08/15/2008 8:49:16 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

Joe Lieberman is a great man as democrats / independents go. =]No doubt about that. That was one apparent McCain trial balloon.

There’s also Tom Ridge [that’s the one who Mark Levin talked about mostly].


184 posted on 08/15/2008 8:55:25 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper," The Cackling Comeback Witch aka Hillary Rod-ham [Clinton])
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To: alarm rider

“McCain has a base to alarm?”

A very fragile base.


185 posted on 08/15/2008 8:56:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper," The Cackling Comeback Witch aka Hillary Rod-ham [Clinton])
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To: mnehrling

“It is the choice of each and every individual who has an abortion that makes it a lethal atrocity.”

What if someone chooses to take your house from you and the Supreme Court goes along with it? Roe=Kelo.


186 posted on 08/15/2008 8:59:56 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("The internet needs a gatekeeper," The Cackling Comeback Witch aka Hillary Rod-ham [Clinton])
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Kelo is just words on paper until someone actually does something with it. The words on paper give it ‘legal(sic)’ blessing, but everyone in the country (including PTBs) have the individual choice to act on it. That's why it is just as important to deal with issues on the philosophical merits, to individuals, and not just legal merits.
187 posted on 08/15/2008 9:02:48 AM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: alarm rider
McCain has a base to alarm?

It's a nose-holding, regurgitation-suppressing, reluctant-voter "base" at present. McCain's picking a pro-abort VP would send it in search of pencils to write in alternatives to him and Obama.

188 posted on 08/15/2008 9:05:49 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Not this conservative. I can't speak for anyone else, but it is already all I can make myself do, to go and cast a vote for the Republican candidate as matters stood. It was always much easier to just sit it out, if not write in another name. It will be an easy matter to not vote for McCain, if he chooses a pro-abort VP. It was already difficult to vote for him, based on his stances on other issues, such as immigration, the climate change hoax, etc. If he chooses a pro-abort VP, he just simplified matters for me greatly, and has lost my vote. No matter what anyone thinks is the government's role regarding abortion-I as an individual will not make myself complicit in supporting people who will help upholds laws allowing the murder of babies. That's my personal stance. He has his, I have mine.
189 posted on 08/15/2008 9:11:43 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
http://judiciary.house.gov/legacy/2187.htm

Here's another piece of the puzzle. Sadly the author recently went insane.

190 posted on 08/15/2008 9:12:47 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: rhema
Amen to that. I already plan to take voting day off and possibly the next day due to the hangover I am going to have. It's going to take alot of Maker's Mark to ease my pain after voting for McCain.

I can't stomach Obabaroozi, but I want McCain to pick a decent VP, or I might just avoid the hangover all together.

191 posted on 08/15/2008 9:18:59 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: Grunthor

Powell? Colin Powell?

Big mistake if that happens.


192 posted on 08/15/2008 9:21:09 AM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: Jo Nuvark

In short... we will not win the world except we do it one soul at a time.

If we don’t turn the hearts of our children (and actually birth children) this country is lost, as with any civilization who forgot that single important point.

Muslims (and other groups including Russia, for that matter) understand this all too well, and procreate with that in mind.

It’s a shame more “conservative’s” don’t get it... a cryin’ shame.


193 posted on 08/15/2008 9:21:41 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Nonstatist
Here is your prize:

SmileyCentral.com

194 posted on 08/15/2008 9:26:51 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: alarm rider
Amen to that. I already plan to take voting day off and possibly the next day due to the hangover I am going to have. It's going to take alot of Maker's Mark to ease my pain after voting for McCain. I can't stomach Obabaroozi, but I want McCain to pick a decent VP, or I might just avoid the hangover all together.

If he picks a pro-abort VP, you and your spouse have a glass of wine with a leisurely dinner, watch a movie instead of election returns, retire early, and take a long walk the next morning instead of turning on the computer/TV.

195 posted on 08/15/2008 9:31:24 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: mrsmel; cpforlife.org; MHGinTN; Salvation; narses; Caleb1411; wagglebee
If he chooses a pro-abort VP, he just simplified matters for me greatly, and has lost my vote. No matter what anyone thinks is the government's role regarding abortion-I as an individual will not make myself complicit in supporting people who will help upholds laws allowing the murder of babies. That's my personal stance. He has his, I have mine.

Precisely.

Is abortion just an 'election issue' for Christians?

196 posted on 08/15/2008 9:37:34 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: verity; Nonstatist; bert

Nonstatist was right. I am already on bert’ list....can I be on his list AND get one of them ugly little buttons?


197 posted on 08/15/2008 10:01:38 AM PDT by Grunthor (Dems want to destroy America, Republicans just want to be Dems.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; wardaddy; Gordon Greene; Das Outsider; semaj; NFHale; hocndoc; afnamvet; ...

[... The Supreme Court overreached by imposing its will over the states...]

Thank you for taking the time to reflect on my post.
It is extremely helpful as some of my ideas come from
strong emotion. As I massage this piece, “overreached”
and “Natural Law” are terms I’ll embrace for the sake
of clarity.

****************************

Mr. Antoninus accuses me of advocating anarchy. But
I say the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize murder
of the unborn is anarchy. Just look around and reflect
back from 1975 to now. Does society look organized?
Civilized? Informed? Evolved? I say NO! It doesn’t
take a cultural analyst or a Social Engineer to recognize
that our culture is in serious decline.

To protect civilization, we must practice and teach
God’s law from the home then (because God is faithful
when we obey His Word), that law will naturally flow
out and “correct” the culture.

John Nesbitt’s “Megtrends” makes the point that
lasting and genuine trends start from the bottom
(the home or the street). Synthetic fads start
from the top (advertising or government), and do
not last.

Goverment is our friend when it sticks to the business
of providing infrastructure and protecting EVERY citizen.
We are well past that now. This old ship won’t turn
without a moral, Godly rudder. We won’t find that rudder
in our courts or in our houses of Government. That moral
rudder is in the houses of the people and cannot be
legislated from us. So... we are without excuse.

*******************
“For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst
weave me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to
Thee, for I am fearfully and wonderfuly made.... (snip) ...
Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance...”

(Psalm 139)


198 posted on 08/15/2008 10:11:36 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Goverment is our friend when it sticks to the business of providing infrastructure and protecting EVERY citizen.

The Constitution doesn't just protect citizens. It protects all PERSONS.

Even Judge Blackmun, the author of Roe, recognized such when in the body of the decision he admitted that if the unborn were persons they were protected by the provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment.

And that means on every square inch of American soil.

199 posted on 08/15/2008 10:18:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Reagan: "It's morning in America." - McCain Republicans: "It's night and you'll learn to like it!")
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To: Gordon Greene

God bless you, Gordon.

Thanks for hanging in with me as I “learn” to express what I believe.


200 posted on 08/15/2008 10:19:45 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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