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U.S. green lights 'anything into oil'
WorldNetDaily ^ | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 08/14/2008 4:31:07 PM PDT by donkey slayer

Defense Department OKs facilities turning natural produce into energy.

A Georgia company looking to solve America's energy problem has finally teamed up with the federal government, hoping to make millions of barrels of oil every day from virtually anything that grows out of the Earth.

Bell Bio-Energy, Inc. says it has reached an agreement with the U.S. Defense Department to build seven test production plants, mostly on military bases, to quickly turn naturally grown material into fuel.

"What this means is that with the seven pilot plants – the military likes to refer to them as demonstrations – with those being built … it gives us the real-time engineering data that we need to finish the designs for a full-scale production facility," J.C. Bell, the man behind the project, told WND today.

"In 18 months or so, we will start manufacturing oil directly from waste and we will build up to about 500,000 barrels a day within two years. In another six months, we'll reach a million barrels a day."

As the United States now imports about 13 million barrels of oil a day, the only obstacle then to total energy independence from foreign sources will be the money needed to develop the processing plants, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; oil
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I am so skeptical of all this these days.... heard it all. But one can only hope we are close to something like this. This article states the Defence Department is in on it now, that would be promising if true. Anyone know if this is true??? The time table seems quick.
1 posted on 08/14/2008 4:31:07 PM PDT by donkey slayer
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To: donkey slayer
I heard about this a few months back. If it's bogus, the defense dept bought. It sounded credible.
2 posted on 08/14/2008 4:33:28 PM PDT by isrul (Harriet Quimby~1912~Hannah Reitsch ... A Coincidence?)
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3 posted on 08/14/2008 4:37:21 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: donkey slayer
"U.S. green lights 'anything into oil".

Bullshit!

What's so special about those untouched billions of gallons of oil sitting right under our asses, just waiting to be pumped to the surface?

Was the production of that potential fuel something other than "anything"? It must have came from "something", but for some reason we can't touch it.

We just have to make "new oil", and everything will be right?

WTF!!! I'm entirely sick of this crap!

4 posted on 08/14/2008 4:41:47 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: donkey slayer
You think ethanol was a scam, I'll bet this much worse. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 10 gallons of gas to make one from “anything”.
5 posted on 08/14/2008 4:43:01 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: donkey slayer

We could easily convert the waste in Washington into several million barrels of oil per day..


6 posted on 08/14/2008 4:45:26 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: donkey slayer
Another company set up a pilot plant to do this in Missouri and were able to create oil at (what was at the time expensive) $60 a barrel. While they ran into some problems (e.g., the smell of the waste bothering locals, issues tuning the process to different types of waste), the technology did, in fact, produce oil with a net positive endergy output so I think the idea is plausible if they can work some kinks out of it.
7 posted on 08/14/2008 4:45:52 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: donkey slayer

Translation, burn more food for biofuels that require more energy to make than they supply, while the idiots of America hold hands and sing kumbiyah.


8 posted on 08/14/2008 4:46:10 PM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservative,the lesser of two evils is an unacceptable evil.)
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To: donkey slayer

Ok. I’m a girl and don’t understand most of this but, is this going to do for all food prices what ethanol did for corn? Farmers in my area are scrambling for corn to feed their cows.


9 posted on 08/14/2008 4:48:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: donkey slayer

Actually, Scientific American has has two articles over the last couple of years about a test plant that is successfully turning turkey offal into bio-diesel. Do not know what the cost is but apparently it has some decent potential.


10 posted on 08/14/2008 4:48:37 PM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: Recovering Hermit
We just have to make "new oil", and everything will be right?

The theory is that if "oil" is made from waste or other biological sources presently in the ecosystem, it eliminates the whole carbon footprint thing.

IF increasing carbon in the atmosphere is a BAD THING, this process eliminates it. Which just might allow us to peel off the honest greenies from those whose real goal is to destroy modern society.

11 posted on 08/14/2008 4:49:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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I think the idea is plausible if they can work some kinks out of it.

If the major kink is the smell, how about if we build huge plants upwind of OPEC nations.

12 posted on 08/14/2008 4:50:33 PM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Question_Assumptions

Sorry, you beat me to it. That was the plant I was thinking of.


13 posted on 08/14/2008 4:50:42 PM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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As I understand it, a big part of the turkey offal financial analysis was that they’d be paid by the turkey producers to haul off the stuff.

In fact, once they found out, the turkey guys started charging for it and the whole financial model went sideways. The plant shut down, and the turkey guys had to go back to paying to have their s*** hauled away. Stupid greed wins again.


14 posted on 08/14/2008 4:51:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: donkey slayer
In related news.... Changing World Technologies is filing for an IPO. This is the company that's had the pilot plants running for a year or so, converting the waste from turkey processing factories. The company was spotlighted in Discover magazine a couple of years ago (http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil)

Waste-to-fuel firm Changing World files for IPO
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10017027-54.html

Exciting times, these are. With these new technologies, new nuclear plants, more US drilling -- and yes, some solar, windpower, etc. -- I'm looking forward to great drops in oil prices. Also looking forward to the Saudis & Co. going back to being goat herders.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 4:56:36 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: chaos_5

ethanol was/is costly,this guy has,supposedly a cheap way to make oil out of waste veg matter,,if its cost effective,I say,go for it,there’s tremendous potential,if it works and is cheap,of course,it could be a scam.


16 posted on 08/14/2008 5:18:52 PM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: donkey slayer
Kudzu into fuel could have possibilities..
17 posted on 08/14/2008 5:28:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: donkey slayer

“”With minor changes in the agricultural and forestry products, we could create two to two and a half billion tons of biomass a year, and you’re looking at five billion barrels of oil per year,” he said.”

Five billion barrels a year? What would we do with it?


18 posted on 08/14/2008 5:49:52 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Humvee
a test plant that is successfully turning turkey offal into bio-diesel...

If they find a way to turn Canadian goose turds into bio fuel I think they can rocket a ship to the moon and back just based on what is locally available around here.

19 posted on 08/14/2008 5:58:12 PM PDT by BRL
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Which just might allow us to peel off the honest greenies from those whose real goal is to destroy modern society.

I have no interest in determining anything about any of these greenies, and I could care less about good vs. bad. They're all presenting a big problem.

I would like to increase our supply of oil so that I can afford to drive my damn vehicle, and we're sitting right on top of more than any of us, and many generations of our kin would ever need.

It's pretty much a no-brainer.

20 posted on 08/14/2008 6:47:53 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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