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Sen. McCain & the natural born - Q&A with Markham Robinson of American Independent Party
MarylandIndependentParty.org ^ | August 13, 2008 | Steve Schulin

Posted on 08/13/2008 11:18:44 PM PDT by Steve Schulin

August 13, 2008

Tonight's Maryland Independent Party conference call was a humdinger

We had some guests from out-of-state on tonight's Maryland state conference call, including Markham Robinson of California. I invited Markham to join us and discuss the lawsuit announced today which contends that John McCain is ineligible to serve as president, and thus should not be allowed to be placed on the ballot in California. Callers had many questions and comments, and Markham answered all comers with scholarship and good humor.

Listen to the mp3 recording of the call by clicking here -- http://www.marylandindependentparty.org/archive/Maryland_Independent_Party-conf_call-20080813.mp3

It's a tad over an hour in length. Thank you Markham and other leaders from across the country for joining the call tonight.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: aip; colbaquiddic; electionpresident; lawsuit; mccain; mccainlist; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen
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Maryland Independent Party holds two public telephone conference calls every week.

Wednesday nights at 10:05 pm Eastern Time

Saturday mornings at 9:05 am Eastern Time

Dial-in Number: 1-712-421-7885

Conference Passcode: 2008#

All of good will are welcome as we endeavor to offer a better choice to voters. Informative calls like tonight's are but one part of that. Our platform and other info is available via the same page that contains today's article.

1 posted on 08/13/2008 11:18:45 PM PDT by Steve Schulin
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To: Steve Schulin

“John McCain is ineligible to serve as president”

Barack Hussein Obama is the one who’s truly ineligible to serve as president - let me count the ways.


2 posted on 08/13/2008 11:36:50 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Steve Schulin

I don’t know, but as the son of US naval officer officially deployed in the service of his country, I’d say McCain is a natural born US citizen. Obama, on the other hand, the Marxist, anti-America, anti-capitalist, anti-freedom son of a Muslim communist from Kenya is probably the kind of person the Founders had in mind to keep out of the presidency.


3 posted on 08/13/2008 11:37:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Ah Shucks, I guess we can figure out who it out to be at the GOP convention. Kinda the old fashion way.


4 posted on 08/13/2008 11:42:20 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance
Hi Jim -

Alan Keyes emphasizes the same point as you do, and I asked Markham about that. He presented a reasonable answer, and I urge folks to listen.

5 posted on 08/13/2008 11:49:30 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

Nice job, Steve.

It’s good to spend time talking to such a fine group of patriots.


6 posted on 08/14/2008 12:22:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (God exists. What impact does that fact have on your plans?)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with you.

Perhaps this creates the opportunity for all the candidates to make their constitutional qualifications clear to the American people, so no mistakes are made.


7 posted on 08/14/2008 12:25:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (God exists. What impact does that fact have on your plans?)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Perhaps this creates the opportunity for all the candidates to make their constitutional qualifications clear to the American people, so no mistakes are made.”

Yes!! It’s the opening salvo. Once McCain get examined thoroughly (and cleared), than Shrillery can get her surrogates to demand the same for Nobama.

We’ll be seeing the Indonesian citizenship, etc. hitting the public soon.


8 posted on 08/14/2008 2:10:47 AM PDT by pyrless (I carry a gun, 'cause a cop is too heavy)
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To: EternalVigilance
Perhaps this creates the opportunity for all the candidates to make their constitutional qualifications clear to the American people, so no mistakes are made.

It is amazing, the media will search a mans garbage to find a reason he can't be president, yet none of them ever just publish a list, in application form, of a mans constitutional qualifications, with a birth certificate attached.

Such a simple question, to ask and prove........"Are you a natural born citizen?"

9 posted on 08/14/2008 2:22:11 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Steve Schulin

IMO. McCain should take the lead on this and find the best line to solution, rather than wait for the attack that is coming and play defense all the way to the election. Perhaps we’ll see Barr vs hilliary in November.


10 posted on 08/14/2008 5:08:35 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Steve Schulin

I am having a hard time believing people are trying to get him off the ballots. His father was in the military at the time, in service to the country. This is a punishment for military members.

Why go after McCain? There are so many questions about Obama, it isn’t even funny. His parents were not sent out of the country for the service of the country so his eligibility is the one that should be questioned.

Is the Independent Party concerned about Obama’s eligibility or is the patriot the only one being targeted?


11 posted on 08/14/2008 5:09:42 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: Steve Schulin; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!

(No, that term does not apply to you, Steve.)


12 posted on 08/14/2008 7:01:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for mentioning that, TSR. I’ve wondered about those “Freak State” PINGs I’ve seen over the years. It’s true that our state politics have long been dominated by the more urban areas, and that the Democrats have owned these areas, politically. I believe that there’s plenty of opportunity for a God-fearin’, liberty-lovin’, sovereignty-conservin’ party to thrive here. I don’t think the GOP will be that party. The GOP had a candidate for Congress in a June 17 special election here in my district. Turnout was so low in this district that the Democrat won with about 16,000 votes. If the GOP had an ounce of real desire to take on the Democrats, they could have turned out enough voters to take this seat. The notion that 16,000 votes was enough to represent the 700,000 people in this district blows me away. If I could have persuaded a thousand FReepers to come here and go door-to-door on election day, I could have won that seat as a write-in.


13 posted on 08/14/2008 8:06:38 AM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

Is that a platform? John McCain’s not a natural born citizen? Good luck with all that.


14 posted on 08/14/2008 1:57:08 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: Jim Robinson

I didn’t see any thing in Corsi’s book that tied down that old Barack Obama (senior) was a communist. Junior Obama didn’t have any contact with him anyway unless you count one visit he made to teenage Barack in Hawaii where he admonished him not to watch so much TV and to study harder.

It appeared that leftist Frank Davis was the one who began his true indoctrination into Marxism during his teen years in Hawaii, although I think his loony leftist mother may have laid a bit of groundwork.

No doubt in my mind that he swallowed the whole ball of wax later, but still have no reason to blame his alcoholic absent birth father.


15 posted on 08/14/2008 1:58:22 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Gee whiz, Cinnamon Girl, I invited folks here to listen to the approximately 1-hr Q&A of Markham Robinson of California, who graciously accepted our invitation to be a guest on our new party's conference call last night. We invited him because he's the chairman-elect of a state political party which is already formally affiliated with the new national party with which we expect to affiliate. I also invited folks to look at the platform of Maryland Independent Party.

I left the Republicans because McCain doesn't come close to being an acceptable choice, for me, for President. I made that decision without caring a whit about his circumstances of birth or the Constitutional questions raised by the lawsuit. The platform deals with many issues on which I evaluate Sen. McCain, and any candidate. But the platform is silent on the particulars of the lawsuit, although the platform's emphasis on adhering to the Constitution seems quite consistent with Markham's emphasis. I'm delighted that Markham is pursuing this matter.

16 posted on 08/14/2008 2:32:32 PM PDT by Steve Schulin (Cheap electricity gives your average Joe a life better than kings used to enjoy)
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To: Steve Schulin

The best way to disenfranchise yourself is to vote 3rd party.


17 posted on 08/14/2008 4:12:14 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: Steve Schulin

The best way to disenfranchise yourself is to vote 3rd party.


18 posted on 08/14/2008 4:15:05 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: patriciaruth

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+father+communist


19 posted on 08/14/2008 4:31:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: patriciaruth

Barack Obama’s Stealth Socialism

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302137342405551

~~snip~~

Amid all this, Obama reunited with his late father’s communist tribe in Kenya, the Luo, during trips to Africa.

As a Nairobi bureaucrat, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Harvard-educated economist, grew to challenge the ruling pro-Western government for not being socialist enough. In an eight-page scholarly paper published in 1965, he argued for eliminating private farming and nationalizing businesses “owned by Asians and Europeans.”

His ideas for communist-style expropriation didn’t stop there. He also proposed massive taxes on the rich to “redistribute our economic gains to the benefit of all.”

“Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed,” Obama Sr. wrote. “I do not see why the government cannot tax those who have more and syphon some of these revenues into savings which can be utilized in investment for future development.”

Taxes and “investment” . . . the fruit truly does not fall far from the vine.

(Voters might also be interested to know that Obama, the supposed straight shooter, does not once mention his father’s communist leanings in an entire book dedicated to his memory.)

In Kenya’s recent civil unrest, Obama privately phoned the leader of the opposition Luo tribe, Raila Odinga, to voice his support. Odinga is so committed to communism he named his oldest son after Fidel Castro.

With his African identity sewn up, Obama returned to Chicago and fell under the spell of an Afrocentric pastor. It was a natural attraction. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright preaches a Marxist version of Christianity called “black liberation theology” and has supported the communists in Cuba, Nicaragua and elsewhere.

Obama joined Wright’s militant church, pledging allegiance to a system of “black values” that demonizes white “middle classness” and other mainstream pursuits.

(Obama in his first book, published in 1995, calls such values “sensible.” There’s no mention of them in his new book.)

With the large church behind him, Obama decided to run for political office, where he could organize for “change” more effectively. “As an elected official,” he said, “I could bring church and community leaders together easier than I could as a community organizer or lawyer.”

He could also exercise real, top-down power, the kind that grass-roots activists lack. Alinsky would be proud.

Throughout his career, Obama has worked closely with a network of stone-cold socialists and full-blown communists striving for “economic justice.”

He’s been traveling in an orbit of collectivism that runs from Nairobi to Honolulu, and on through Chicago to Washington.

~~snip~~


20 posted on 08/14/2008 5:15:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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