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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

What bothers me is if he was born in Hawaii, why doesn’t he just get a copy of his birth certificate? They keep them, don’t they??


6 posted on 08/13/2008 10:17:18 AM PDT by Spok (Whatever you say about McCain, it must be admitted that he's no B. Hussein Obama.)
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To: Spok
What bothers me is if he was born in Hawaii, why doesn’t he just get a copy of his birth certificate?

The current working theory is summarized in this thread:

Obama Citizenship Controversy - Did Obama Travel to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport? A Summary.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059717/posts
See also this reply:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2059717/posts?page=27#27
The theory holds that there may have been not one, but TWO adoption/legal guardianship changes during Barack Jr's childhood: The first, circa 1965/1966, would have made Lolo Soetoro his legal guardian, and would have sealed the 1961 records, and the second, circa 1970, would have made Madelyn Payne Dunham & Stanley Armour Dunham his legal guardians, and would have sealed the circa-1965/1966 records.

So the current working theory holds that you would need a judge's order to unseal the 1970 records, then a second judge's order to unseal the 1965/1966 records, then a third judge's order to unseal the original 1961 records.

So right now, the theory holds that Barack Jr is sitting behind doubly redundant legal protection which keeps anyone from getting at the original 1961 records.

And if Barack Jr was born on American soil [not Canadian or Kenyan or Japanese soil], then the new HIPAA legislation would make it a felony for a hospital worker to release the hospital records of his birth without a court order.

20 posted on 08/13/2008 10:29:40 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: Spok

They keep them and they are SIMPLE to get. I got certified copies of my kids records in 3 weeks for 5$ each.


59 posted on 08/13/2008 11:04:20 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: Spok
What bothers me is if he was born in Hawaii, why doesn’t he just get a copy of his birth certificate? They keep them, don’t they??

This gets further complicated if his original birth certificate was sealed, due to his adoption by Mr. Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen afterwards. This would mean that anything in the *public* file would carry the name Barak Hussein Soetoro, and *not* Barak Hussein Obama. Its highly possible that he hasn't produced a valid certificate under the name Barak Hussein Obama, simply because he can't...

the infowarrior

61 posted on 08/13/2008 11:07:19 AM PDT by infowarrior
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