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Bush Denounces Russia's 'Brutal Escalation' in Georgia
American Forces Press Service ^ | John J. Kruzel

Posted on 08/11/2008 5:30:43 PM PDT by SandRat

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1 posted on 08/11/2008 5:30:45 PM PDT by SandRat
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Am I the only person on the planet who thinks that Russia has legitimate gripes?


2 posted on 08/11/2008 5:34:10 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Gripes or not...this is simply Russia sending a message to all of it’s former Republics, stay away from the West.

Oh, and the only pipeline from the Caspian that scoots around Russia was blown up...that probably had something to do with this whole fiasco.


3 posted on 08/11/2008 5:35:34 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (The Viper, given our enemies a chance to die for their country...)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Al Capone had gripes, too.


4 posted on 08/11/2008 5:35:55 PM PDT by unkus
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Am I the only person on the planet who thinks that Russia has legitimate gripes?

Probably not; a lot of other people are buying the propaganda too.

5 posted on 08/11/2008 5:36:02 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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Maybe....


6 posted on 08/11/2008 5:36:48 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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Gripes about what?


7 posted on 08/11/2008 5:37:28 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Technogeeb
Probably not; a lot of other people are buying the propaganda too.

It sounds to me like there's blame to put on both sides, how much goes where is still unclear (to me at least). I haven't exactly been privy to all that's been going on there in recent years/months.

8 posted on 08/11/2008 5:39:55 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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Well Whoop de dooo! That will really teach em a lesson. We have gone from a SUPERPOWER to a Politically correct bunch of wimpys!!!


9 posted on 08/11/2008 5:41:19 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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It’s a problem of ‘gas’ ... the Russians are net exporters of energy and we and Europe are big importers of energy. You can thank Nancy for keeping this issue as leverage, and both parties ignored the needs for energy independence while oil was so cheap, albeit the most powerful weapon our enemies have against us.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 5:43:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Putin agrees with you. Does that make you feel better?


11 posted on 08/11/2008 5:44:10 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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So...you believe Russia has the right to reassemble the USSR? To conquer Georgia?


12 posted on 08/11/2008 5:44:24 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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Would not surprise me if they were in cahoots. They are after all fellow travelers.


13 posted on 08/11/2008 5:45:59 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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Tomorrow Rush will give the final word on the whole affair. I have been waiting all weekend.


14 posted on 08/11/2008 5:47:39 PM PDT by libh8er
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So...you believe Russia has the right to reassemble the USSR? To conquer Georgia?

When Georgia sent troops into South Ossetia last week what did they think Russia was going to do?

15 posted on 08/11/2008 5:48:05 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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LOL


16 posted on 08/11/2008 5:48:58 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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It sounds to me like there's blame to put on both sides

Perhaps. But if the Mexican government decided to allow the autonomous region of Southern California to fire mortars into Nevada, I wouldn't blame the people of Nevada if they moved in to put a stop to it.

This is a situation that has been slowly engineered by the Russians over a decade. Their active support (in training, arming, and funding) terrorists eliminates any argument Russia might have that they are the wronged party here.

I haven't exactly been privy to all that's been going on there in recent years/months.

That is probably the biggest problem with this conflict. The western media has almost completely ignored this problem which has been actively brewing since the late 1990s. When proof of Russian support for the various terrorist activities (car bombs, destruction of infrastructure, assassinations, etc.) are shown by the Georgians (they successfully captured some saboteurs a few years back), it gets ignored in the western media as not being "newsworthy".

17 posted on 08/11/2008 5:49:23 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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I join you. I still do not understand how the US refused to take give any support to the Russians when the Muzzie terrorists from Chechnya carried out horrendous attacks again and again against Russian civilians in Moscow. The Russians should have been given encouragement instead of reprimands for acting against these terrorist lodged in Chechnya. Then the horrific attack against in Beslan by Muzzies again, nothing but lip service in support of the Russians who lost their children in a most horrific manner. Georgia and even Britain gave refuge to the leading terrorists. Our government not only displayed a total lack of compassion but hypocrisy in this matter. If our attitude had been supportive of a Russian crackdown on their terrorists maybe, just maybe, a lot of attitudes in Russia might have changed. But it is most apparent that there is tremendous resentment in Russia because of our government’s callous actions in response to these terrorist acts in Russia.


18 posted on 08/11/2008 5:53:45 PM PDT by brydic1
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Poor Russians. Murderers of tens of millions. Partner with Hitler over Poland. Enslaver of half of Europe, and now know as a cold weather kleptocracy, a kind of Zaire of the North.
19 posted on 08/11/2008 6:00:11 PM PDT by Leisler
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Not at all...

This article was very different from others regarding the chain of events.

For instance, the article intimated that Russia first entered South Ossetia without any provocation although early reports said they entered SO in response to the attack first launched by Georgia.

Second, it says Russia bombed the South Ossetia capital but, again, early reports said that this was done by Georgian planes.

A very strange article.

There are now reports that US soldiers have been killed and captured.


20 posted on 08/11/2008 6:00:56 PM PDT by boston_joe
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