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me ^ | 08/11/2008 | me

Posted on 08/11/2008 11:41:00 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99

I recently recieved a welcome letter from my daughter's teacher. My daughter is going into kindergarden at a catholic school. The letter included the phrase "learning how to help save the planet" which of course means global warming. My wife and I believe that global warming is a hoax built on junk science.

I don't want my daughter brainwashed by this liberal bullcrap. what should I do?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: catholicschools; globalwarming; help; liars
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Yes. Send her to the school and be thankful that you have the option of the awesome education Catholic schools usually provide. And talk to your child about your beliefs and why you have them. Your child will be fine.


101 posted on 08/11/2008 12:08:04 PM PDT by dmz
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To: BibChr

The Catholic Church is Biblically faithful.


102 posted on 08/11/2008 12:08:17 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

My son went to both Catholic and public school. They both teach propaganda. It is very frustrating. I use to say, I have to de-program my kids when they get home. My son graduated and is conservative. :)

Last spring, my daughter had a teacher having them do a report on Obama and his strengths. I called on that one and spoke with the Vice Principal, said No thank you. I think others complained too because fortunately, that went by the way side.

I do complain from time to time over major things. For the most part, hubby and I teach them as you will. As your daughter gets older, she will know better from you. :)

Be prepared to be annoyed a lot. They most certainly have no right to teach this crap but they do. Most schools are very liberal.


103 posted on 08/11/2008 12:09:03 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Why not just talk to your daughter every day and ask her what she learned? Then you can counter anything as it happens. If it becomes a real problem (which I doubt) with your daughter being brainwashed, then you will have concrete examples with which to differ. Then you can go to the principal or teacher with your concerns.

Going off half-cocked like some here suggest based on one phrase in an introductory letter is not going to get you any future respect. It will peg you as a nutball and anything that you say going forward can easily be ignored.


104 posted on 08/11/2008 12:10:11 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: day10

Same thing.


105 posted on 08/11/2008 12:10:24 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Well hey..if you work 16 hours that still leaves you 8 for other stuff:’) You have access to a lot of myth busters here on FR. You could start a scrap book with her. When she cries for the polar bears show her pics that they really aren't dying. When she talks about carbon credits..show her a pic of Al Gores house , his plane and his new boat. When she asks about endangered species show her articles about people not being able to use their land because of yucky looking slugs. That kind of stuff.
106 posted on 08/11/2008 12:10:47 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Climate Impacts Center to shut down
107 posted on 08/11/2008 12:11:37 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

You’re an optimist, aren’t you?

;^)


108 posted on 08/11/2008 12:12:00 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I think you’re overreacting a bit. Both my children attended Catholic schools their whole lives and have excelled beyond their peers.

Saving the planet in Kindergarten means they teach them about recycling, picking up trash in neighborhoods etc. Nothing wrong with keeping the planet neat and clean, IMO.

The other nice thing about Catholic schools is that Christmas is still OK! LOL


109 posted on 08/11/2008 12:12:02 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
You be very pleasant and winsome and you talk to her about how concerned you are about this issue and how you have studied the issue quite a bit.

Then ask her if she has read any of the contrary views (Unstoppable Global Warming, Climate Confusion, The Politically Incorrect Guide to GW, etc.). When she says no, tell her that she may not need to panic that a doomsday scenario is looming. Drop a few encouraging ideas on her, such as the uncertainty of the thermohaline circulation on the ocean floor and how much that acts like the world's antifreeze/coolant and that everything we see in GW may be under control.

Basically, this will set you up as pleasant and knowledgeable and willing to stand your ground in a friendly manner. Later, when she tries to brainwash your child, you can correct her and encourage her to give alternate views. Provide that info if you must. Remember: you're going to a voluntary school. They need you and your daughter as a client. If she gets out of hand, escalate, contact other parents and threaten to pull your kids out of the school.

She's a teacher. Not G—. Not the ultimate authority. And there is plenty of good, hard, scientific evidence that she is out of her pathetic little element.

110 posted on 08/11/2008 12:12:05 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
I don’t see why she needs to learn anything about any of this crap. she should learn her alphabet, basic reading, and coloring inside the lines.

Trust me, I totally understand your position and agree 100%. However, from now on, your daughter is going to be taught things that should not be taught in school. It's a fact of modern life.

Since you cannot successfully fight it, you must counteract it. I'm not saying go into college-level education and arguments with her. Ask her what she learned that day, discuss what she learned, and provide your own viewpoint. Trust me, she will trust you much more than she trusts her teacher--especially if you remain in that kind of close contact with her every day.

Even though we homeschool, my kids still come to us with things they've heard or seen and we discuss them. After doing this for several years, they know what we believe, and--more importantly--why we believe it. They can accept that others think differently, and can sit through classes or TV (NatGeo, etc) and intelligently critique them (ages 9 and 14).

While your daughter is still young is the time to start this journey--not later when something really important comes along and she doesn't know how to deal with it. What I actually advocating is teaching her how to learn intelligently.

It's never too early.

111 posted on 08/11/2008 12:12:20 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Azzurri; Big Guy and Rusty 99
"I’d contact the teacher and ask for the course content on “helping to save the planet” and specifically say you do not want your child force fed global warming nonsense. At least it gives the teacher a heads up that you’re keeping an eye on them and you can review whether the material is propaganda at the same time."

This is good advice. You might also suggest that she view "The Great Global Warming Swindle":

http://www.forces.org/Multimedia_Portal/index.php?selection=174 (you'll have to scroll down a bit to view it).

By the way, other than that, a Catholic education is an excellent education!

112 posted on 08/11/2008 12:12:52 PM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: BibChr
Then I'd point you away from Rome and to Christ, and His saving Gospel

The challenge BibChr is that Roman Catholics believe that Christ established the bishops of the Church (RC)through Peter as the caretakers of His church on Earth. To ask them to abandon the Roman Catholic church would be like someone asking you to abandon Christ. They believe, with all faith, and can point to the Bible as evidence as much as you can to the contrary, that Christ left his authority within the Roman Catholic church, and to go against that is being disobedient to Christ. Their faith is as strong as yours. Christ unites all of us, even if we may squabble over some of the details. (..and before you ask, no, I am not Roman Catholic.)

113 posted on 08/11/2008 12:13:17 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Good choice on the Catholic school. My advice....don’t do anything...lots of time to give your daughter appropriate info on this. Don’t get her off on the wrong foot, and make you “trouble makers” from day one.


114 posted on 08/11/2008 12:13:53 PM PDT by spyone
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To: B-Chan

does that mean I shouldn’t ask BibChr for plumbing advice?


115 posted on 08/11/2008 12:14:11 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Hey There Obama, Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?)
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To: mnehrling
Not necessarily. I would ask specifically what they mean by this and how this is integrated into the curriculum before making any decisions to switch schools.

Hey guyssssssssssssss

this is KINDERGARTEN!

No need, nor room for this in the curriculum -

The only 'saving the planet' lessons for 5 year olds should be things like, "Don't throw paper on the floor. You should not expect someone else to pick up after you."

"Wipe your feet." "Wipe your nose."

Well, you get the picture.

The one and only reason anything more is taught at that level is to "get to the children before the parents have instilled their values in them" ---- THAT is the PRINTED in-house rationale for all these Marxist programs.

Send your little ones into these enemy camps at your = and their = peril.

These are 5 year olds. They should not have to be confused between what the teachers tell them and what the parents tell them.

Let them be KIDS, for gosh sakes....learning their ABC's and numbers.

116 posted on 08/11/2008 12:14:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: rightinthemiddle
As George Carlin said, the planet will be here long after we’re gone. It’s gone through billions of changes over its existence. It doesn’t need saving. In fact, the Earth is in much better shape than it was 30 years ago.

Of course it will still be here. Man is not as powerful as he thinks he is. The point is ... the original poster needs to ask for the curriculum and see exactly what this teaching is w/o worrying too much about the global warming crap. Still a valid point no matter what kind of word game you wish to play.

117 posted on 08/11/2008 12:15:18 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

I would avoid introducing your child to conflicting issues with the school and expecting her to stand up for your personal views. Two or three people offered excellent advice in that you should take the time to discuss the
topic with her when it is presented in class - putting it on a sharing of information level rather than telling her what she has to believe.

Making an issue of this for your child to defend will make for some very unhappy moments for her and take away from the desire to be part of the classroom.

Nothing is more detrimental to a child’s knowledge intake is feeling outside of the group.

When she has lessons on the global warming myth ask her to teach you what she learned in class so you can have a discussion with her and lead her in the direction you wish
her to learn.

If this is done without pressure and resistance she will absorb the information you wish to give her without feeling she is caught between two oppositional sides.

Whatever you do don’t make her a pariah to the school, the teacher or her classmates.

She doesn’t have to know everything you do in her first year of school.


118 posted on 08/11/2008 12:15:42 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: DoughtyOne

It WAS a painful experience.

But I think it was worth it.


119 posted on 08/11/2008 12:16:19 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: maine-iac7

Have you had any kids in Kindergarten lately? It’s not the kinder we attended when we were kids.


120 posted on 08/11/2008 12:16:19 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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