I do have the injection tube type roller and the filters and paper tubes, but I am so messy with it. Looking forward to the electric one. Maybe it will be easier. Is there a certain way you measure the tobacco to get just the right amount without the mess?
I'm not sure the mess can ever be entirely eliminated. I have found that since I finally decided to follow directions (hey, what do the manufacturers know!)and was careful to fill the ends of the fill chamber and then loosely (but not sparsely) fill the center, I don't end up with a butt that has the density of a high caliber bullet. I still end up with a bunch of loose tobacco all over my rolling table, though, that I have to constantly scoop back up.
metesky had the people at the smoke shop demonstrate the electric machine for him, and he wasn't too impressed with it (the people at the smoke shop didn't seem to be either). He's at work right now, and I can't remember the specific objections, but I'll ask him when he gets home and let you know, if you'd like.
The electric machine works essentially like the hand crank one, you still have to fill the chamber the same way.
Then you press a button to fill the tube, and it takes forever for the thing to s-l-o-w-l-y perform that operation.
In fact, there was a couple there at the time returning their electric machine because they hated it.
Ma'am, I have found no way to NOT make a mess so ProfoundBabe and I make our smokes in the garage near a vacuum cleaner. Like Madame Dufarge says in #60, fill the ends then fill the middle a little lighter. I tamp on the whole chamber with my fingers to get the packing uniform and that's what makes part of the mess. Like most folks, I scrape up what I can, put it back and vacuum up the rest. A little involved perhaps but MUCH cheaper than $35 /carton here in NC.