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To: Liberty Valance; muawiyah; jpl; Allan; Mitchell; TrebleRebel

LA Times version

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-anthrax19-2008aug19,0,7146651.story

WASHINGTON — Scientists behind the case against Bruce E. Ivins, who federal officials allege was solely responsible for the deadly anthrax mailings of 2001, publicly described their work for the first time Monday and said the spores had originated from a flask linked by investigators to the deceased Army scientist.

In two briefings with reporters spanning nearly four hours, the scientists provided new and sometimes clarifying details about the extensive testing that led prosecutors to the brink of filing murder charges against Ivins, who died of a prescription-drug overdose July 29. The briefings were intended to more fully explain the evidence against Ivins and address concerns about the reliability of the government’s assertion that Ivins was the culprit.

...”I don’t think we’re ever going to put the suspicions to bed,” said Vahid Majidi, a chemist and assistant director of the FBI’s weapons of mass destruction unit. “There’s always going to be a spore on a grassy knoll.” (Excuse me, but if anyone is spouting a “conspiracy theory” here, it’s the government)

Among the new details Monday was that, contrary to statements made over the years by other government officials, the mailed anthrax had not been coated with additives to “weaponize” it, or make it more deadly. Silicon was detected within the spores, said several of the eight scientists who met with reporters, but it occurred naturally, not as a result of weaponizing.

The silicon did not make the anthrax more buoyant when exposed to air, said James Burans, associate laboratory director of the National Bioforensic Analysis Center.

“The silicon would not have contributed to the fluid-like qualities of the anthrax powders,” he said. But loading the powder into envelopes, and their handling by the Postal Service, would have made it more electrostatically charged and difficult to contain, he said.

Burans also said that high-speed mail processing machinery could have crushed the powder more finely — evidenced by plumes that rose 30 feet above the floor at a postal annex in Washington.

On the other hand, he and the other scientists did not offer an exact explanation of how Ivins was able to prepare the fluffy, dry, powdered anthrax. Ivins, they said, could have used a lab-issue drier called a lyophylizer, but not necessarily.

...However it was done, said Majidi, “it would have been easy to make these samples at” Ft. Detrick, Md., home of the Army’s infectious diseases research facility.

...When the FBI sought scientific help in analyzing powder recovered from the mailings, it turned to USAMRIID — and to Ivins. Officials who addressed the media Monday acknowledged for the first time that Ivins had helped the FBI compose the “protocol” for early subpoenas that sought anthrax samples from USAMRIID scientists, including Ivins.

In February 2002, even before his subpoena arrived, Ivins submitted a sample that violated the protocol, the officials said. And because FBI officials concluded that the protocol violation would make Ivins’ sample inadmissible in court, the bureau destroyed it. In April 2002, Ivins gave the FBI a second sample, which did not match the RMR 1029 parent strain. (Um, I bet he didn’t violate the new protocol because he didn’t know it was established yet. So he sent the germs in the established form. And he sent the correct strain!)

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246 posted on 08/19/2008 11:07:13 AM PDT by Shermy (Barry O'Java - Jon Carry '08)
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To: Shermy
“There’s always going to be a spore on a grassy knoll.”

Yeah, well, dead microbiologists tell no tales.

247 posted on 08/19/2008 11:17:51 AM PDT by jpl ("First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire." - Roland of Gilead)
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To: Shermy
Vahid Majidi, that's the guy with the Iranian name, right? Definitely makes me feel confident in FBI capabilities when they run a guy out with an Iranian name.

Are these people nuts!

250 posted on 08/19/2008 12:17:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Shermy; Mitchell; jpl; TrebleRebel
This one almost made me laugh out loud:

“Burans also said
that high-speed mail processing machinery could have crushed the powder more finely —
evidenced by plumes that rose 30 feet above the floor at a postal annex in Washington.

On the other hand
he and the other scientists did not offer an exact explanation
of how Ivins was able to prepare the fluffy [sic]
dry
powdered anthrax.
Ivins
they said,
could have used a lab-issue drier called a lyophylizer,
but not necessarily.

...However it was done,
said Majidi,
“it would have been easy to make these samples at” Ft. Detrick, Md
(blah, blah, blah… OK you can stop reading now)

‘However it was done’
though it would have been easy
they’re not telling us
and they aren’t going to
because they don’t know.

The FBI got their marching orders:
This case is closed!
253 posted on 08/19/2008 1:58:22 PM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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