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To: Soliton; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; TXnMA
I cannot accept anything as true without evidence. I do not have faith in solitons or in myself.

Good grief, how do you manage to live through an ordinary day with an attitude like this?

Your problem — if you have one — seems to be that you already take so much on faith, but simply don't realize the extent to which you do this....

Plus you avoided answering my question: Why is God such a bugaboo for you?

Don't merely declare there is no proof of God. "Proof" or evidence cannot be forthcoming in a situation where you absolutely deny, as your initial position, the reality of God. If you say He is "not there," then you won't look for Him. And if you don't look for Him, He won't find you.

On like grounds, how would you "prove" the evident, palpable existence of yourself?

FWIW.

Thanks for your reply Soliton!

239 posted on 08/01/2008 11:59:20 AM PDT by betty boop (This country was founded on religious principles. Without God, there is no America. -- Ben Stein)
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To: betty boop
Don't merely declare there is no proof of God. "Proof" or evidence cannot be forthcoming in a situation where you absolutely deny, as your initial position, the reality of God. If you say He is "not there," then you won't look for Him. And if you don't look for Him, He won't find you.

I am happy the way I am. I don't fear ghosts, goblins, devils, or demons. If God exists, He can let me know anytime He wants. If I had evidence, I would be a believer too. The fact that so many believers are rude, semi-literate goobers makes it a hard club to join though.

240 posted on 08/01/2008 12:11:19 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: betty boop; Soliton
[ If you say He is "not there," then you won't look for Him. And if you don't look for Him, He won't find you. ]

LoL...

241 posted on 08/01/2008 12:19:51 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: betty boop
Plus you avoided answering my question: Why is God such a bugaboo for you?

I keep telling you folks, you're wasting your time with arguing the "surface" questions that the "skeptics" put forth.

Because they're not voicing their true objection. Your question above hits on it nicely.

My version is "What would you have to give up if you accepted the Christian God of the Bible?"

It's probably something REALLY selfish, if the person honestly answered it.

246 posted on 08/01/2008 12:59:59 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: betty boop
Don't merely declare there is no proof of God. "Proof" or evidence cannot be forthcoming in a situation where you absolutely deny, as your initial position, the reality of God. If you say He is "not there," then you won't look for Him. And if you don't look for Him, He won't find you.

Assuming the conclusion is a very subjective way to deal with things. It colors the outlook of the person and they don't even realize it.

Not only does the person not look for God, but since the person has already decided that there is no proof for God, then nothing one can present him will convince him because he has, a priori, decided that it is not proof.

256 posted on 08/01/2008 2:02:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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