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To: Rick.Donaldson

First all there is a difference between mileage and maximum operating effieciency. Sometimes running more fuel saves you money. That equation is still not out of balance in my estimation, but more on that later. First:

Your not overestimating the amount of energy an alternator can convert from mechanical energy.

You are underestimating how much energy the resulting Hydrogen adds to the system.

Any extra load on the alternator requires more energy/fuel to service, voltage regulator or not.

If that tiny load to produce hydrogen overrides the tiny amount of energy contained in the hydrogen you are in the red. That is the point here.

Besides I thought we were all told the advantage of this sytem was in Catalyst reactions resulting in better burning? Or was it a chemically bound supply of Oxygen? Or any other BS this scam uses to propigate.

Truth is all it does is punch a hole in your intake, fouling the sensors, causing your highly computerised diesel truck to run lean, which it can because the modern computer controlled ignition system is smart enough to adjust to keep it running. That eventually will result in a repair bill far in excess of the fuel savings.

However this eventual repair bill is anticipated by modern computers that will eventually notice the trend and start running your good ol 7.2 richer again to compensate. Good Bye mileage gains, hello maximum operating efficiency.

Want to test it? Build one for your lawn mower or string trimmer and tell me how you make out...

— lates
— jrawk


31 posted on 07/31/2008 12:44:05 PM PDT by jrawk
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To: jrawk

There’s a video of a guy out there running a B&S 148CC powered pushmower at about 250-300 RPM, chug-chug-ing away; the video follows a hose from the crankcase breather port on top of the Pulsa-Jet carburetor to the ground, across the lawn, through the garage door, up the stairs and down the hall, entering a bedroom and terminating at a huge fishtank filled with water and bubbling away.

Next to the tank we see an apparatus that he describes as akin to a Tesla coil connected to the tank and wired to the house wiring; in the foreground is a shaky ammeter showing around 25-30 amps.

It may be producing an output of approximately 1/2 H.P. while drawing the equivalent of 2 H.P. from the mains of the residence.


39 posted on 07/31/2008 12:58:46 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: jrawk

Let me say something so you’re all very clear on this

I think these things are a bunch of crap. Now get it out of your head that I somehow believe that these guys are selling something worth something. They aren’t.

I’m commenting on the people who are making the claims and I’m RIGHT, 100% on what I am saying. I’m not trying to defend junk science. I’m making statements based on the fact that I am VERY well versed in physics, and I’m trying my best not to do this in a negative way.

That someone says “more energy is being produced than is used” is a FACT. A CAR produces many horse powers of energy, and most of it goes to move the car. Anything extra produced by the engine is “considered extra energy” that is not being efficiently used, given off as heat in the engine or stored in batteries.

That someone can produce extra energy from an engine isn’t new. I NEVER said they could produce MORE energy than gasoline is capable of producing!

I’ll say this now. Car engines are extremely efficient devices and proof of this is in the amount of heat energy that is generated and dissipated in the engine as heat.

Now, you can all sit there with your weird science and say I’m wrong - but, facts is facts. (No, we’re NOT breaking the law of conservation of mass and energy here)... good grief! LOL!

Chill out guys. Look at the people making these devices and selling them, not me. I’ve got no interest in them other than the sheer science behind how things work.


103 posted on 08/01/2008 9:09:54 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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