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To: Polarik
"I'd have to be working for the Obama campaign NOT to notice them."

I agree with you, but you need to think about your comment above a bit more.  You need to seriously think why a campaign in the post Rathergate, era, a campaign that is smothered in money would produce an image with this poor quality and place it on one of their official sites.

Dirty campaign tricks are not fraud.  You simply cannot go into court and say "but your honor, he put a phony image on his web site" and seriously think you will get any sympathy from the judge.

You have done a very good job of proving the images fake.  What you have failed to do is prove that Obama was not born in Hawai'i in 1961 and is not a natural born citizen.  The problem is the old phrase... So what's that have to do with the price of tea in China?

You raise a lot of questions and offer a lot of theoretical answers... so does Al Gore.
61 posted on 07/22/2008 8:04:20 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Obama at the Brandenburg gate: "Ich bin ein Beginner")
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To: HawaiianGecko
You have done a very good job of proving the images fake. What you have failed to do is prove that Obama was not born in Hawai'i in 1961 and is not a natural born citizen. The problem is the old phrase... So what's that have to do with the price of tea in China?

You raise a lot of questions and offer a lot of theoretical answers... so does Al Gore.

Thank you, but you should have quit while you were ahead.

It was never my task to prove that Obama was not born in Hawaii, or in 1961, or anything else about Obama. That implies a hidden agenda of which I had none.

That is why my research is all the more compelling, because I did not set out to discredit Obama. I jumped into the fray after Jim Geraghty raised the issue. Before then, I did not even know that Obama was refusing to show his BC.

Meanwhile, in comparison to my actual research, all of these endless "What if" exercises are infinitely more a waste of time and totally fruitless.

To me, the overriding question is why, when asked to produce his birth certificate, did Obama refuse? Why the stonewalling? Why allow his campaign to post a bogus image on his own website? Why does the Daily Kos post the same image, but 4 times larger" Why does FactCheck post the same image as the Kos, but with a "stub" seemingly attached?

The answers to all of these questions are crystal clear, really.

They have taken all of the FACTS about him, and claimed that they are SMEARS.

The propaganda game works this way: if you can lie about one thing, and get away with it, then you can lie about everything.

Now, posting a false birth certificate was not exactly child's play by comparison, but it makes perfect sense as to why they answer legitimate questions with illegitimate (keyword here) answers?

We KNOW for a fact that Obama that was raised as a Muslim.

We KNOW for a fact that he went to a Muslim school.

We KNOW for a fact that his books contain racist views.

We KNOW for a fact that that he stopped wearing a flag pin after 9/11.

We KNOW for a fact that Obama did not put his hand over his heart at Tom Harkin's barbeque.

We KNOW for a fact that his wife, Michelle, said that, For the first time in her life, she felt proud to be an American.

And, We KNOW for a fact that he and his campaign are lying through their teeth, and they think that they can say anything they want without being challenged.

Now, of all the "SMEARS" posted on their website, the one that is the most egregious, is saying that Obama made his birth certificate public -- which he has not.

Given that the issue hit McCain first, and he fully complied with it, then it absolutely should be a continuing issue, because Obama needs to be held accountable to the same standards that we hold John McCain.

The question was never "What is on Obama's birth certificate?

No, the question is "Why was it necessary to hide OBama's actual birth record from the public?" and "Why are so many people involved in this scam" if showing it is not important?

To quote Shakespeare, "Aye, there's the rub!"

78 posted on 07/22/2008 1:07:31 PM PDT by Polarik (obama, birth certificate)
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