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D.C. Officials Weigh Making Semiautomatic Pistols Illegal
FoxNews ^ | Monday, July 07, 2008 | Greg Simmons

Posted on 07/07/2008 10:32:35 AM PDT by Joiseydude

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court's repeal of the ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., may be a boon for a segment of the firearms industry whose last major windfall might have been in the heyday of the Dirty Harry movies: those who make and sell revolvers.

The court ruled that a blanket ban on handguns is unconstitutional, but D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty and other Washington officials want to keep in place a prohibition on semiautomatic handguns — those in which a bullet clip is inserted into the gun's grip.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; fenty; heller; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Joiseydude

Manual transmissions in automobiles are legal but automatic transmissions are still illigal.

All manual transmissions must be registered with the police, kept unloaded and stored in a safe.


101 posted on 07/07/2008 4:09:36 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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To: facedown
I always recommend revolvers for personal defense for rookie shooters anyway.

If one has a Glock 17 and, as a matter of routine, one always locks the slide back when inserting or removing a magazine, how is it different from a revolver? Pull the trigger--bang. Don't pull the trigger--no bang. If you don't want bang, don't pull the trigger.

Revolvers may in some ways seem simpler than semi-autos, but they have some pitfalls of their own. If a revolver is not loaded fully, one must be careful to ensure that the live rounds are properly placed. If one cocks the hammer on a partially-loaded revolver (including one which has been fired), decocking the hammer without turning back the cylinder will reduce the number of rounds available before the next 'click'.

While other firearms may offer a lower price or better accuracy, I think the Glock is pretty much perfect from a user-interface perspective.

102 posted on 07/07/2008 4:30:32 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Lord_Calvinus

You could look back over about 8 years of posts and see that I’m no bot for McCain or anyone else. I’m damn disappointed that he’s the candidate. But we’re to blame for that. We voted him in. No sense pouting about it.

What’s your solution to all this then?

I do happen to think that an Obama presidency will be a disaster. Things will happen that we will never be able to undo. Sorry if it offends you, but I don’t think McCain will be nearly so bad as some here fear. I know he’ll be a whole world better than Obama. And them’s the choices.

If you have an inspiration for how to do better than McCain for the next four years, please do tell.


103 posted on 07/07/2008 4:32:26 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: School of Rational Thought
I am looking forward to the government’s reasoning that they should have semi-auto and auto weapons but citizens don’t.

Which is greater--the number of innocents killed each year by government personnel using assault rifles or imitations thereof, or by non-government personnel using such weapons? Whose use of such weapons should be more restricted?

104 posted on 07/07/2008 4:37:54 PM PDT by supercat
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To: facedown

Thank you very much.


105 posted on 07/07/2008 6:35:04 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: radioman
Your right to fly without government interference is "protected" while you are limited to turn of the century aircraft.

Yes, but there is no enumerated individual right to fly a plane. Thus the right would be subject to a lessor degree of scrutiny. A public safety justification *might* be sufficient, especially where there are provisions for continuing to exercise the right without endangering the general public with falling aircraft.

106 posted on 07/07/2008 7:08:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Ramius
I’m no bot for McCain or anyone else. I’m damn disappointed that he’s the candidate. But we’re to blame for that. We voted him in.

Speak for yourself. By the time I got to vote, the only other candidate still in the race was Ron Paul. I didn't vote for either of them, but I did vote for the candidate of my choice, who was still on the ballot, even if out of the race.

107 posted on 07/07/2008 7:13:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Hey, I’m in the same boat. Here in the Soviet of Washington conservative votes just don’t matter. Look at the vote-counting for our governor. It took three recounts for them to “find” enough “uncounted” votes to put her in office.

There are elections in Mexico that are less corrupt than here in King County.


108 posted on 07/07/2008 7:52:33 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
Hey, I’m in the same boat. Here in the Soviet of Washington conservative votes just don’t matter. Look at the vote-counting for our governor. It took three recounts for them to “find” enough “uncounted” votes to put her in office.

Not quite the same boat. You're talking about the general election, I'm talking about the primary. The lack of choice had nothing do with the State of Texas, except perhaps it's Republican committee. But more responsibility goes to the Republican National Committee and whoever else set up the schedule for the primaries. Both parties seem to have arranged things to favor the more liberal candidates, often in small states without many electoral votes, but able to establish credibility and Big MO. As people gravitate to "a winner" rather than what they perceive as the candidate which represents their positions most closely, fund raising becomes easier for the early leaders, and harder for the others.

109 posted on 07/07/2008 11:21:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Yes, but there is no enumerated individual right to fly a plane.
An unenumerated right is no less a right than those few that are enumerated...it even says so in the Constitution itself.
110 posted on 07/08/2008 7:55:44 AM PDT by radioman
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To: Ramius; Dr. Eckleburg

I’m a Calvinist. The Lord will have exactly the man he wants in office. I’m perfectly happy. I survived Clinton even as I watched my “Evangelical” brothers running around like Henny Penny.

Here is my inspiration: the likes of Coulter are right. Republicans won’t fight McCain. The sooner we realize that and prepare that we must fight the Republicans should McCain win the better. And, saying we must vote for McCain because of the judges he will nominate is simply part of the delusion we must fight.


111 posted on 07/08/2008 8:29:14 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus

Well, I’ve said my piece and we’ve strayed well off topic, so I’ll go on my way. Good day to you...


112 posted on 07/08/2008 8:55:07 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Beagle8U
I had to stop and reread this post. The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting or wildlife regulations. I can't archery hunt with a crossbow but owning a crossbow is not illegal. What I can own and what I can hunt with are two totally different and separate issues. It actually surprised me that any supporter of the second amendment would not fully understand this huge point.
The courts decision clearly states that a commonly used firearm can not be banned. The court did not say a firearm commonly used for hunting can not be banned. I would bet that even in your state that there is a lot of competition in which pistols are not just common but are the prevailing standard and weapons of choice. Even if you are not allowed to hunt with them I believe that pistols are still a very commonly used firearm in the state of Pennsylvania. The second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting. We were given the RIGHT to own guns for our own protection and to insure that the people could remain in control of our own government.
113 posted on 07/08/2008 8:56:28 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a retired disabled AB Ranger and I'm damn proud of it!!!!!)
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To: radioman
An unenumerated right is no less a right than those few that are enumerated...it even says so in the Constitution itself.

Of course, but there is the additional burden of proving that it is a right. And it's not a matter of it being less of right.. well yes it is, some right are more fundamental to the political process and to freedom that others. Flying a plane is one of those that can be regulated on a "public good" and "minimum burden" basis.

114 posted on 07/08/2008 10:11:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: oldenuff2no

Did you post that to the wrong person?

I know that the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting and pointed out that fact.


115 posted on 07/09/2008 3:44:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: El Gato
Of course, but there is the additional burden of proving that it is a right.
No, the burden is on the government to prove it's not a right...it says so in the Constitution.

Flying a plane is one of those that can be regulated on a "public good" and "minimum burden" basis.
Flying, driving and shooting are now regulated on a "public good" and "minimum burden" basis.
Your right to shoot is no different than your right to drive, fly or smoke pot.

Government does turn rights into privileges and has for decades. Why should the right to bear arms be treated any differently than the right to drive, fly or smoke pot?
116 posted on 07/19/2008 12:20:16 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman
No, the burden is on the government to prove it's not a right...it says so in the Constitution.

If you mean the 9th amendment, it says no such thing. It says there are other rights, but does not say that *everything* is a right. Thus you have to prove that whatever the government is doing is violating a right of some sort. Probably one recognized by the English Common law, or it's colonial cousin.

Why should the right to bear arms be treated any differently than the right to drive, fly or smoke pot?

Because it is an *enumerated* right. There can be no question that it is a right.

When asserting a 9th amendment right, there is that question. Not everything under the sun, that you or I might wish to do is a right, many things but not everything.

117 posted on 07/22/2008 11:17:39 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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